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CALL FOR SUPPORT FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE!                                                       http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html

On Friday, February 12, 2016 10:46 AM, marie <marie@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dearest Sunflower,

As always, I am sending Janie’s message as soon as I receive it….hope you like the news on the views of CCB #6! The petition news is not so good.

Love you, Marie

From: Jane <jane@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:42 PM
To: marie ; hair dresser
Subject: Feedback!

Dear Marie and Steve,

I have feedback on CCB #6 and it’s mostly good! First 24 hours views according to YouTube tech people: 624,559 VIEWS! That’s a new record! http://thepoisonappleoftheworld.com/ccb-creaming-6-an-ultimatum-for-the-babylonian-joos-on-palestine/

Now on the down side, I got this comment:

“Shitflower, you scuzzy bitch! We are going to do everything possible to block the idiots who follow your lying blogs from communicating on World Harmony Day! http://thepoisonappleoftheworld.com/where-is-solutions-institute-president-dan-johnson-integrity-because-he-wiped-out-world-harmony-day-site/ We proud and beautiful Zionist women are also going to make sure that shit petition doesn’t move…. Scumflower, had any complaints about accessing the petition, you Singaporean whore? http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html We will yet use your mop of hair for toilet paper to wipe our superior Zionist asses!!!”

OK, that’s all I have so far. Love to you both and my dear Sunflower!

Janie

 

HOW THE PETITION CAME ABOUT?

on Monday, September 26, 2011

This petition developed out of a dialogue between one Jew, named “Benezraa”, who wants the whole of Palestine for the Jews, and one Palestinian, named “Worldwatcher”, who wants a democratic Palestine, which seems impossible, or we would not still be here talking and arguing. I, Chong Sun Wah, got involved in the dialogue as I am an idealist who believes it is still possible for the Palestinian people to have a homeland, hopefully by the end of next year.

But when it comes to the Israeli and Palestinian conflict, I am a pragmatist, and my belief is to draw focus to the 1993 Oslo Peace Agreement. We, the citizens of the world, must do our utmost to persuade the Israelis to honour this agreement and implement it right away. This could bring great happiness to both sides because we hope this action would bring an end to the bloodshed on both sides.

I see my role here as the “middle-person”, asking them both to stop arguing who is right or wrong, otherwise, the Israeli and Palestinian saga will surely be a never-ending one. I suggested to do a petition and another contributor “doodoo” to the discussion agreed with me. Hence, the birth of a petition – http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html#sign

• ChongSunWah  10/07/2011 08:08 AM Report

My teacher told us the words anger, jealousy and hatred must be out of our vocabulary because they are toxic. I detect great anger and maybe some hatred and this is not healthy at all if we are seriously in wanting to find a solution to the Israelis and Palestinians conflict.

World Peace

The root of mankind
Is to carry World Peace in mind
Freedom from war
We are constantly praying for
To be in a state of tranquility
Requires minds of great intellectual quality
Eternal harmony of peace
We have to seek like daily needs
Peace establishment
Make it our motto of fulfillment
Heralds/Messengers/Proclaimers/Perpetrators of peace
Are universal love and happiness indeed?

-Peace in mind is Peace in life – Sunflower 1983

We are not moving forward just back and fore in the argument on who is right and who is wrong. After 63 years we are back to square one because as long as America is not going to be a fair and just broker in this conflict there is no HOPE for peace.

Netanyahu cannot be a hero neither can President Obama they might end up like Yitshak Rabin. So how my brothers Worldwatcher and Benezraa including doodoo or doodah?

The only way I see there must be an Arab Spring in Israel and the people from the ground will force the government to act for the sake of the future generations can live in peace and harmony. I will try to write a petition and ask my Israelis brothers and sisters to have great compassion for the Palestinian people to help them to have a homeland. At least I am doing something positive. When I manage to come out with the draft I will post it on this site.

doodee  10/07/2011 08:22 AM Report

I agree, Sunflower. And THAT IS WHAT’S HAPPENING! It’s obvious that, Netanyahuey is reacting to the will of the Democracy, it doesn’t matter what he personally wants to do. But he will try to balance his beliefs and those of his base with the changing majority will of Israeli’s citizens. That’s how Democracy works, it’s slow and messy, but it’s the Fairest; and hopefully if the terrorism is taken down a few notches someday the Jews and Arabs can be one big happy family again. There doesn’t Have to be an Armageddon.

btw, thanks for including me as one of your brothers. Thx sis 🙂

The conversation start from here and I took those belong to the 3 musketeers:)

•  ChongSunWah  09/30/2011 07:54 AM Report

If something really belongs to you, you don’t need to fight so hard (63 years) to keep it. When something does not belong to you, you will always live in constant FEAR like what the Israelis are feeling now especially Netanyahu.

•  ChongSunWah  09/30/2011 10:44 AM Report

MY DREAM

I dream not for a mansion
Not because I live without a vision

I dream not for a car
Not because I own none so far

I dream not for jewellery
I am the jewel and this makes me happy

I dream not for pretty dress
A beautiful soul with one I’m blessed

I do have great dreams
Are they impossible dreams?

I dream of a World Library
That will nurture our human philosophy

I dream of an Asian Museum
That will enable us to understand our history

I dream of a World Cultural & Religious Centre
That will unite the soul and mind of the people

I dream of a Unique University
That will nurture the different cultures and religious ideology

And above all, I dream of a Spiritual Renaissance City
That will symbolize the UNITY of all religions

– Am I asking too much in life – Sunflower Chong 7 July 1991

http://www.worldharmonyday.com/poem_sun_search_path.php

•  mangos  09/30/2011 05:40 PM Report

here’s what negotiating means to me as a palestinian while continuing settlement activity. I am negotiating with you on dividing this apple pie while I am eating it, hence the longer the negotiations last the less you’ll ever get if anything. got it stupid?

•  worldwatcher  09/30/2011 12:00 PM Report

RE: bgüstin 09/29/2011 05:41 PM:
and
RE: JöhnGelles 09/30/2011 04:39 AM
and
RE: Ephräim Kärsh’s böök “Palestine Betrayed”
EPHRÄIM KÄRSH IS A STÄRK RÄVING _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist!
— recommended below by two other stärk räving _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önistS, comment posters “bgüstin” and “JöhnGelles”.

Here’s a brief review of the book:
“This book is pure Zionist propaganda of a very blatant kind masquerading as a history book. (I don’t want to waste my time or yours with any further details of this piece of trash.) For a real history book covering the same time period try _THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE_ by noted ISRAELI PROFESSOR of history _ILAN PAPPE_.”

Ephräim Kärsh’s böök “Palestine Betrayed” rates right down at the very böttöm (or the very töp) of _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist pröpaganda along with the *quintessence* of _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist pröpaganda, Jöan Peter’s book “Fröm Time Immemörial” — otherwise known as *THE ZIÖNIST ‘MEIN KAMPF’* — which has been so widely intellectually and historically discredited that no Zionist but the most hardcöre _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist (like Ällän Dershöwitz or Dävid Höröwitz, or “bgüstin” and “JöhnGelles”) even recommends it anymore even as Ziönist pröpaganda!’Nuff said.

•  ChongSunWah  10/01/2011 10:07 AM Report

“Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.” – Mahatma Gandhi

NETANYAHU SAID HE WANTS PEACE AND THEN HE SAID ISRAEL IS “A JEWISH STATE”, SO HOW TO HAVE HARMONY!!

SO MUCH UNHAPPINESS IN THE WORLD BECAUSE OF NETANYAHU!!

•  MaBENEZRAA  10/03/2011 12:19 PM Report

DOODEE AND SUNFLOWER,

DOODEE: Thank you for clearing up the confusion. I was going nuts trying to locate my alleged transgression against Sunflower. And thank you for your kind apology to her.

SUNFLOWER: You express a tender heart and a love for humanity. This in itself is not sufficient. You must learn more history so that, when you speak, you are well founded in fact. Here, I will speak to two related things you have written. One is that one need not fight hard for that, which one truly owns. Second is that “we need to set the record straight” that it is Jews, who robbed Palestinians of their land, and “not the other way around.”

There are two kinds of ownership. One is spiritual, the other is physical. Thus a strong soul may survive, where the body is compromised. Thus there are two kinds of fights: physical and spiritual. In any given moment one may have more or less physical need to fight and more or less spiritual need to fight. It is an ideal to have immaculate physical and spiritual strength. The spirit is most challenged, when disillusioned. The body is most challenged, when it is abused and exhausted.

This may apply to the Homeland of a People as well. And here history and definitions are profoundly important. The name “Palestine” was given to ancient Israel by the conquering Romans 2100 years ago, when they crucified their way across the Balkans into Israel, where they continued the practice of crucifixion, cutting down whole forests and replacing those with forests of crucified Jews. “Palestinian” is a name that has been synonymous with “Israeli”, “Jew”, and “Hebrew” until the past few decades, during which time by a big lie of propaganda politics, “Palestine” and “Palestinian” have come to designate Arab land and Arabs, not the Holy Land of Israel and Jews. This is a great propaganda coup for the Arabs. One may only hope that this Arab propaganda balloon will soon be properly punctured and burst.

As to the Holy Land of Israel, which has been occupied by many nations and inhabitants since the beginning of time, it belongs to The Holy One, Blessed Be He. Human beings may “sojourn” in the Holy Land only according to His Will. Whether speaking of Jews or Gentiles, Humanity is perpetually challenged to fulfil His Will. At various times all succeed and fail, at which times it is His Forgiveness that may sustain us, even in suffering, exile, and repentance both in the material and spiritual realms.

As to theft, the greatest theft in the Holy Land and in the larger World is the theft of the right to life. The verbal theft of the Holy Land by the Arabs is symbolic of their greater theft, their denial of the Jewish right to life as Jews.

The Palestinian Arabs are an international mix of all the occupying nations through history. In modern times the demographic may be regarded as a mix of Turks, Syrians, Jordanians, Iraqis, Iranians, Bedouin, Saudis, and Egyptians — to name a few. All of these include the assimilated blood of Jews. Linguistically, Arabic is the dominant language. Jews, too, are today an international blending.

Before the British and French dominated the region between WW1 and WW2, the region was the domain of the Ottoman Turks, and today under PM Erdogan, we see the Turks reasserting themselves in an effort to create a Neo-Ottoman Empire.

There is so much history to speak of, but, returning to the subject of Israel/Palestine, which is Israel, there have been repeated efforts by the State of Israel to accept an Arab State of Palestine. Always the Arabs have refused.

Always the Arabs blame Israel and have sought to annihilate Israel, which from the beginning sought to recreate a national homeland by purchasing land and by creating wealth out of swamp and desert. The Israel that came into existence in 1948 was geographically discontinuous and microscopic compared to today. Today Israel is still small, though not microscopic, nor discontinuous. Had the Arabs not united in war against Israel in 1948, Israel would not have enlarged itself in its own self-defence. This was an unintended consequence to the Arabs of their own bigotry towards Israel. These same Arabs are still at war with Israel today — officially so — with the notable but presently shaky exceptions of Egypt and Jordan.

Having united in aggression against tiny Israel of their own free will, there is nothing preventing the Arab nations from uniting to make genuine peace with Israel, except their own free will, which continues to be devoted to denying Jews the right to life.

The Arabs face a great conundrum. The Arabs in the vast majority are Muslims, which teaches much that is good, and yet specifies in the Koran that Jews are “pigs, dogs, and monkeys”; the Arabs are the progenitors of a population of 1.3-billion Muslims, and dominate much of Asia and Africa by Jihad; Arabia is the spiritual and physical home of Islam, which seeks to dominate the world at the point of the sword and by threat of decapitation to those unwilling to convert; so, how can the Arabs acknowledge a State of Israel, let alone an equal State of Israel, when such an equality is not anathema to the tenets of their religious faith? Separation of Mosque and State is a modern concept that is still in relative infancy in the Muslim world; democracy and the concepts of religious freedom and equality remain anathema in the majority of the Muslim world. Even if the “Arab Spring” turns out to succeed beyond the wildest dreams of the West, there are still centuries of historical momentum and prejudices to contend with. The more Israel is pressed, the harder Israel becomes; thus the unintended consequence to Muslim faith is the creation of a heavily militarized Israeli enemy, where Israel would rather be a warm friend.

Israel does not stretch across vast continents, does not number tens of nations, and does not number 1.3-billion persons, nor even one-percent or that number of persons. Israel’s only conundrum is to choose to live or die. Israel chooses to live.

All sentient beings have a right to life. At one level or another, all sentient beings must fight for that right, when others deny that right. Even in death, all sentient beings are a part of the greater Life. Yet, we are all designed to live our little lives.

When the Arabs resolve their conundrum in a way that acknowledges independent rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all sentient beings, then peace may blossom overnight in Israel and in the greater part of planet Earth. The peace would only be the type of peace possible in this mundane world. Yet, even with that limitation, we may choose to prefer mundane peace and not mundane war.

• ChongSunWah  10/04/2011 09:52 PM Report

BENEZRAA WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP AND SEE THE TRUTH RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES. WHY THE JEWISH LOBBYISTS ARE EVERYWHERE?

PEOPLE ARE TALKING AND SOON MORE AND MORE WILL TALK AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST STEP TO HELP PALESTINIAN PEOPLE TO HAVE A HOMLAND.

Mondoweiss

The War of Ideas in the Middle East
Charlie Rose Breaks a Taboo, Allowing Open Discussion of ‘Jewish Lobby’
by Philip Weiss on January 8, 2008

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Walt and Mearsheimer have had a dramatic effect on the American discourse, in a silent way. No, the powers that be don’t want to give the authors credit, but things are changing. Robert Siegel’s Do-they-hate-us-because-of-Israel question in the Dem debate (in my previous post) was enabled by Walt and Mearsheimer’s broadside. Again, no credit given. That is because the media are embarrassed. They know this is a story they should have done over and over again; but they were scooped by two scholars in their 50s. The media will be playing catchup on this for a long time. And slowly W&M’s assertions will become the conventional wisdom.

But let me get to the point. Great news. The other night on Charlie Rose (12/31/), the talk-show host allowed Israeli journalist Akiva Eldar to go on about the sinister power of the Israel lobby in American politics:

ROSE: What`s the power of the settlers today?

AKIVA ELDAR: The power of the setters is here in the United States, more than in Israel.
Here, in Washington, yes. Because of the strong evangelical and Jewish lobby that will not allow the administration to touch them. Because in Israel–

CHARLIE ROSE: So the administration has no leverage — the administration in Washington has no leverage against whatever Israeli prime minister there is?

AKIVA ELDAR: Because the administration doesn`t want to use its leverage, because the administration doesn`t want to confront the political lobby. You know, Kissinger used to say that Israel doesn`t have foreign policy, only domestic policy. You can say this about this administration, when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict. It`s purely domestic. Israel is not part of American foreign policy. Israel is a domestic policy. You know, I`m sure you heard this joke that somebody was asking if they would like Israel to be the 51st state of the United States. And he said no, no, in this case, we will have only two senators.

And you wonder why those evil settlements exist in the West Bank? The cause is here. From Charlie Wilson to Charlie Rose, Americans are finally listening…

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Jim Haygood January 8, 2008 at 12:35 pm

It’s fitting that an Israeli journalist would breach the unwritten taboo against openly discussing the Lobby in America. After all, in Israel the Jewish lobby (as it’s called there) is matter-of-factly observed in the press.

Of course, it does no harm on the receiving end to remark upon the bounteous flow of American funds, and how it is generated. It’s on the sending end that too much publicity, of the Mearsheimer and Walt sort, could kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Ultimately, U.S. democracy can’t continue when important policies are off-limits for debate. So obviously, democracy may have to be sacrificed. The preceding post “Yes, Virginia, there is no Israel lobby” outlines the superb job of self-censorship which U.S. candidates perform like obedient puppies. Home of the brave? More like home of the pusillanimous and peculatory.

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MM January 8, 2008 at 1:41 pm

Perhaps off-topic, but another instance of an American Jewish journalist confronting Jewish supremacist attitudes, and worth sharing I thought, is this excerpt from Myra MacPherson’s book on Izzy Stone, “All Governments Lie!”, quoting Stone in 1988:

“I just can’t understand why one is allowed to be sympathetic toward one’s own fellow refugees but not to open your heart to another people’s refugees. The Palestinian Arabs are a wonderful part of the Arab world. They supply intellectuals, professionals, engineers, scientists…It would be so wonderful if we could feel about them as brothers. I don’t know how it is possible to uphold the right of a Jewish state in Palestine and deny the same right to Palestinians to determine what they want to do with the occupied territories. It runs against everything that’s best in the Bible and in the Jewish tradition…There is a saying in Yiddish” ‘If you don’t have rachimones—that is, compassion—how can you call yourself a Jew? I think the test of that in the Middle East is the Jewish attitude toward the Arabs. If we harden our hearts and shut our minds to injusice, we will become a very different people; whatever the reaction of the Arabs is, the Jewish people themselves would be changed. Everything that [comes from] the Diaspora–toleration, separation of church and state, brotherhood of peoples of all different beliefs and backgrounds–these things are being trampled on in Israel, I am sorry to say. If something isn’t done pretty soon, the lines may harden, each side will destroy its own moderates, and then will move on to destroy each other.”

http://voltaire.blogster.com/izzy_stones_position_israel.html
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me January 8, 2008 at 1:53 pm

we’re still nibbling around the edges not one major politician has spoken out and lived, politically. there has never been a debate …only sheepish mentions like this…because once you discuss the lobby you discuss the Jewish elite – and frankly that discussion is not going to take place in main stream media.

If it ever did, the other shoe would drop – open borders –

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David January 8, 2008 at 2:36 pm

I think Charlie laughed a little too loudly at the “only two senators” joke. First, because he must have heard it many times before, and second because from an American viewpoint it is not really all that funny.

And it was odd that he found Eldar’s claim that the power of the settlement movement was centered in Washington so uninteresting that he immediately dropped the subject.

Here’s the link to the interview–

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doug January 8, 2008 at 2:45 pm

Chuckle. I ran across a guest interview by Rosner a while back. The interviewee, KC Johnson, best known for his takedown of the Duke LaCrosse “rape,” was not at all reluctant to discuss the Lobby:
“Johnson had worked closely with American Jewish leaders in raising money for Democratic Senate candidates. As President, he respected the power of the Israel lobby and was loath to cross it.”

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerGuest.jhtml?itemNo=925321

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Charles Keating January 8, 2008 at 3:43 pm

Michael Medved is busy as hell today smearing Ron Paul as anti-semitic on his radio station apropos the NH primary.

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LeaNder January 8, 2008 at 6:38 pm

Thanks for the link David, interesting [6.30 ff]

To me it felt Eldar helps Rose with the joke over a slightly awkward situation. But let’s take a closer look.

Rose: So what’s the power of the settlers today?

Eldar: The power of the settlers

Rose: Or the settlements

Eldar: is here in the United States, here in Washington, yes. Because the strong Evangelicals and the Jewish lobby that will not allow the administration to touch them. Because in Israel …

Rose: So the administration, the administration in Washington has no leverage against whatever Israeli Prime Minister there is?

Eldar: Because the administration doesn’t want to *use* it’s leverage. Because the administration does not want to *confront* the political lobby. You know Kissinger used to say Israel has no foreign policy, only domestic policy. You can say this about this administration when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict. It’s purely domestic. Israel is not part of foreign policy, Israel is a domestic policy. I’m sure you heard this joke …
Actually Eldar’s argument reminds me of Leslie Gelb’s argument against the Walt/Mearsheimer book in the NYT.

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Anonymous January 8, 2008 at 8:42 pm

Pollard Squared

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/01/jerusalem-square-to-be-named-after.html

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Mark January 8, 2008 at 8:56 pm

Jewish filth

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Reasonator January 9, 2008 at 12:33 am

Hey Charlie – What’s up with your main man Paul?

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124288.html

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LeaNder January 9, 2008 at 10:32 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/23/books/review/Gelb-t.html?pagewanted=print

As for the American government, the record clearly shows that when Israel crosses certain important lines, as when it expanded Jewish settlements into Palestinian areas like the West Bank and Gaza, Washington usually expresses its displeasure in public and, even more so, in private. Mearsheimer and Walt just don’t mention that.

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Charles Keating January 9, 2008 at 12:28 pm

LeanNder:

Ha. Have you been reading this blog? Expansion of Israeli settlements? Both our gentile and Jewish establishment have supported them in full, in fact. The establishment (Jew and gentile) learned from American history. The principles are just lipstick.

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Spinoza’s Ghost January 10, 2008 at 8:02 pm

Here’s Israeli journalist Gershom Gorenberg discussing the issue with Bob Wright:

http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/7963

• BENEZRAA  10/05/2011 12:27 AM Report

YIPES!

Dear Sunflower,

Even from you I didn’t expect to hear that “truth” comes from the writings of such Holocaust deniers of Walt and Mearsheimer. Either you are a dupe of such writers, and you naively favor the Axis powers, which invaded China and Southeast Asia, which gave the world WW2 during which China suffered terribly; or you are a conscious and deliberate operative for totalitarian and Jihadist movements today.

Sunflower, you have totally blown my mind!

I’d still like to hear you explain to me the ‘humanitarian’ basis on which China invaded, occupied, and annexed Tibet and Siankiang (and with UN approval, no less). I’d also like to hear from you, how it is that you ignore the massacres of the Al-Shabab in Somalia and their kidnappings of Europeans from Kenya; I’d like to hear from you, how it is that you ignore the massacres of Shiites and Afghanis by the Taliban; I’d like to hear from you, how it is that you ignore the massacres of Sunnis by Shiites; I’d like to hear from you, how it is that Arab propaganda about Israel commands your attention so greatly that you ignore the 750,000 starving souls in Somalia, suffering not only from the drought, but, suffering from not only the terror of the Al-Shabab, but, also from the impedence of the Al-Shabab to worldwide efforts to mitigate the disaster with food, water, clothing, shelter, and medicine. Take off your blinders, if in fact you are so blind, or cease harming minds with pernicious lies and distortions. By and large the Arab-Israeli Conflict pales in comparison to the real and great problems facing the world. The world does not need such a distraction from where it truly needs to focus: world hunger, environmental devastation, human trafficking, rampant deadly infectious diseases, poverty, and large scale criminal violence such as we see from the Al-Shabab. In response to the Chinese curse, “May you live in ‘interesting’ times,” I offer a blessing: May we all live in ‘boring’ times!

By the way, your English is quite good, so I find your apparent self-deprecation to be quite disingenuous and falsely humble, though in ‘polite’ circles it may be seen as sweet, humble, and endearing. Your English skills are certainly sufficiently competent that you read wishful thinkers such as Akiva Eldar and deliberate Nazis such as Walt and Mearsheimer. Try reading more truthful literature. If you truly seek truth, harmony, love, and to send out ripples of good will to the world, you can fill your mind with much better reading. If you fill your soul with a steady diet of lies, you will fill other souls with those lies, and the whole world will suffer, including you, as you live in the world, the same world that I do and that we all do.

• ChongSunWah  10/05/2011 01:24 AM Report

Benezraa you said – By and large the Arab-Israeli Conflict pales in comparison to the real and great problems facing the world.

Benezraa my brother older or younger I don’t know but that’s not the point. THE POINT IS THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT CONTINUE THIS “STATUE QUO”. The world cannot accept it and we the citizens of this caring one world will force this issue from the ground – ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, IT IS TIME FOR THE ISRAELIS TO GIVE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE THEIR HOMELAND – PALESTINE” with the right of return of all Palestinian refugees.
So much hates for America after they had invaded Iraq and after President Obama became the 44th President we can feel the immediate effect the world is calmer. Hence the world has this perception if the Israelis and Palestinians conflict can be resolved then true justice will prevail. China now is behaving like Israel, if Israel can do so we will also follow suit. So if you want all these injustices in the world to stop it start from ISRAEL!
DO YOU SEE MY POINT NOW AND WHY I AM FOCUSING ON THE ISRAELI & PALESTINIANS CONFLICT ONLY ALL MY LIFE?

• ChongSunWah  10/05/2011 02:25 AM Report

BENEZRAA 10/05/2011 12:27 AM

By the way, your English is quite good, so I find your apparent self-deprecation to be quite disingenuous and falsely humble, though in ‘polite’ circles it may be seen as sweet, humble, and endearing.

After I had escaped from Abu Dhabi with my 2 young children in 1983 I did not cried instead I took a pen out to pour out all my feelings in a blank piece of paper. When I got bad migraine I will take a pen and the words just flow, it is just amazing watching myself in this process. This happen on this site – http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11907

• ChongSunWah 09/23/2011 01:25 PM Report

I have one great wish when I was young about 10 years old that one day Palestinians will have their homeland.

I supposed the writing is kind of release and it helps to smooth my soul. Something like I feel better and I can get back to my pragmatic living to find food to keep me alive.

My poems are the inspiration from God and I believe so is my writing. I am the black sheep of the family not given the opportunity to further my education after I failed my O level. My job as a young child was to serve my whole family like the servant yet I feel privileged because I got a homeland called “Singapore”. Again my mother constantly reminded us why Lee Kuan Yew was working so hard for us so that we can stand tall in the eyes of the world. She often said, “Look at the poor Palestinian people they got a country and next it is gone taken by the Jews given by UN.” So it is natural for the Palestinian people after almost 63years should go to UN and ask for a Palestinian State. How long are they going to let the Israeli government turn them around and look like fools in the eyes of their people and around the world!

THEIR PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED, WE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET ALSO FELT THE FRUSTRATION. IF RABIN IS STILL ALIVE THIS MERRY GO ROUND WILL NOT HAPPEN?

POEM OF MINE

These poems of mine
Are all written through the inspiration of God?
How it arrived, only God knows
I just pray for the happiness for mankind
Good or bad might be my lines
It is not important, because I believe God will decide
Deep in my heart
I think it is the best thing that has happened in my entire life
These lines of mine are filled with values and truth
After reading, I hope you will understand the meaning between the lines
If your eyes can see
If your ears can hear
If your heart can feel
If your mind can think
If your mouth can speak
When you read all my poems
You will understand the message is from God and not mine.

– I speak the truth, because why should I lie? – Sunflower 1983

My Childhood Thoughts

I would like to be frank and honest; my schoolwork was neither outstanding nor remarkable. I can’t say that I was a poor performer either. Suffice it to say, I belonged to the average type with the knowledge that I would have got to work doubly hard in order to be on par with those of the best in our class.

Of course, ambition to reach the top did exist in my mind, so every conceivable effort had been put in to achieve what I was aiming at. But to my dismay, I could not make it. However hard I tried, from time to time, but to no avail. I was obliged to accept the hard fact and came to terms with my own self that I was born not as intelligent as others, and be contented with it by accepting that status with the best of grace. It seems to me to bridge the gap, hard work and work smart were the only answers. And I stuck to this principle and this formula has never failed me.

But curiously enough, on the other hand, there was always an internal urge in me that kept pushing me to surge forward in search for an answer to something happening around me, which I deemed abnormal. More often than not, this was done even at the expense of making a fool out of ME.

In quiet and lonely moment, I often shed tears because my behavior was always being wrongly judged and condemned, like an outcast (even at home). For example, I heard my father and sister talking to each other about me. (They thought that I was asleep) They just could not stand the way I speak English; they felt that the way I speak was so false. As such, I could not help asking myself the question – “Was anything radically wrong with me and by asking questions, am I trying to be smart?” I just don’t understand why we must always shut our mouth and if you open your mouth to speak your mind, you are deemed to be disobedience. If you look sweet and closed your mouth, you are a darling. Such a weird society and our stiff education system almost make living in this world meaningless to me, until I invited God to my soul to heal my wound of rejection.

Don’t the system knew that child psychology tells us that children need praise for their performance and any matter of peculiar nature raised that has no connection with their readers is a sign of precocity? This irresistible urge for new knowledge should be encouraged and not suppressed. Sad to say, few teachers in those days and even at this time appreciate the positive side of this phenomenon. That’s why they misunderstood my behavior.

Come what may, I am determined to keep on searching for the right answers to my doubts regarding things happening around me independently, until something tangible had turned out. Odd as it may seem, as soon as I have got to stand on my own feet to face the world, more and more funny and inexplicable things took place around me. Practically, coming as it did, if not daily at least weekly, confounding me this time even more complicated and perplexed than those I used to face when I was a school girl.

It is therefore, crystallized clear that as long as we are still alive and living in this world, new things and entangled problems are bound to confront us. Unless we are lucky enough to have a crystal-ball ever ready at our disposal, otherwise we have no other recourse but carry on and on in search of the unknown in order for us to arrive on the answer with regards to our existence.

•  ChongSunWah  10/05/2011 03:05 AM Report

FEAR

I fear ‘progress men’
Who change this beautiful world?
Into their own hand

I fear all men,
For woman to them,
Is only a night pleasure to spend?

I fear my ex-husband
Being his wife
Prisoner I’m

I fear for my children
Protection and love they need
I pray that I will always be with them

I fear for my life
For the future
I know not where I land

I fear for I’m lost
Decision I have to make
Alone! Firm I need to stand

“May God blessed me always” – Sunflower 1983

During my younger days, when the lesson of history began, I more often dreamt than listened, especially when I heard about the unhappy events occurred around the world. For instance, how Palestine became Israel? Why can’t the Arabs and Jewish people live happily together just like us Singaporeans? Why people were killing each other in Vietnam? What was a communist and why were they evil? And why would anyone attack Singapore when we don’t have any natural resources? Why weren’t we given a chance to understand the others, but instead to fear them like the Russians? Who had created this enormous fear to the whole world? Why were we afraid of the Russians and not be allowed to build friendship with them?

I think I might have the answer because at the age of 16 years old I was working for Cockpit Hotel as a receptionist and I got the exposure to meet up with the Russians, the so-called enemies of the free world. The owner Mr. Ho Leong Ting liked me very much and when his friend from Hong Kong came and needed a translator Mr. Ho asked me to help. My job was to convince the Russian who was selling the deer roots to the businessman that they were promoting the Russian deer roots as it was and not from Korea as Korea roots fetch a premier price. But in actual fact all along the businessman was selling the Russian roots as Korean one. Instead of focusing getting more business on behalf of this businessman, when the day came for me to meet up with the Russian I was very curious and scared at the same time excited because the Russians were known to us as evil people. I was so absorbed to learn more from him about them that on the business front I failed the Chinese businessman by speaking the truth that they sold Russian deer roots as Korean roots. I told the Russian that the businessman had lie to them and I broke down and cried instead. (From this experience I knew I can never be a successful businesswoman.)

The curiosity took over and I asked a lot of questions about life in Russian, who were they, what was the different between communists and people like us? He told me they were human beings just like us, it was the America propaganda machine that had paints them as evil people. Therefore, the whole world was fearful of them because the America ideal was to control the whole world for economic gains. Oh! I see now, it was the America that made us believed that in order to have a better world, the whole world must keep the communists out if they do not follow the policy of the America. I asked the Russians could I touch his hand because I wondered were they human like us. I did touch his hand and it was warm like mind, so they were the same like us. So from there onwards I don’t trust the America government because everything they did got hidden agenda. (Therefore, when they wanted to go to war with Afghanistan I felt the need to stop them.)

Anyway at that young age, the more I tried to reason it out, the more I became confused. I was really at a lost in search for all these complex answers to my questions. Could it be that I was too raw and naive to tackle these so complex and many-sided problems satisfactorily. This world and life was indeed complex in my young and hungry mind. I wanted to learn so much and most of all, to understand everything that was happening around me. But I realized it was just impossible, because the adults just wanted us to study and the subjects normally were not connected to life learning! They did not had the wisdom to see that it was more important to prepare us for the New World, then to protect and shield us from the reality of life. So, I often asked the question WHY!

TELL ME WHY

Tell me why this world has changed
Can it be that we’re insane?

Tell me why too I have changed
With unknown words they came

Tell me why we have lost faith
With people we have to live

Tell me why I still have faith
Or am I that naive

Chorus:

Am I just a little girl?
Who believes love will stay

Or am I just a little fool
Who dreams of love today?

Tell me where is hope and faith
For people with strength to live

Tell me can you join my hand
For love to be in this land

– A song I have composed – Sunflower 1983

Though older and wiser, this does not mean that I have all the answers. Instead, my fear for this world was increasing not decreasing because I realized this world was controlled by strong power in the West. Mamamia! What was going to happen to us, as we were so backwards, so to say by the West! If you were economically behind that means you were backwards. Who said so? I guessed it must be the evaluation of the West and we in the East just accepted it whole-heartedly without questioning. So much so that my teacher told us that Singapore is small with only 2 million people, we will not be able to find the talents like people in the West. Gradually all these beliefs were ingrained in our mind from a very young age.

Only now and yet even now, I can’t understand the structure of becoming, but I only knew that everyone was reaching out for more power, instead of love. Power to control people, power to control the world, whereby fields of human conflict will be a normal sight, which was dangerous because we will be at the edge of self-destruction. My worst discovery was more frightful than ever.

I realized a leader governs each country with a lot of power in their hands. As the saying goes, “Absolute power corrupt”, that was my greatest fear. Our lives and future were at their mercy. It seemed like they were playing a game. They seemed like children, one minute they were friends, and the next minute they can be enemies. Just imagine we are at a movie, they seem like actors and actresses, when the show was over and they must be prepared for the next show.

Was it Shakespeare who said, we are the actors and the world is but the stage”… or words to that effect? But do they realize it’s our lives that they were playing with! What if their minds are destructive, then I’m sure we are heading for disaster just like in Germany with a crazy man like ‘Hitler’.

Especially, if I tried to imagine a hundred or a thousand Hiroshima’s at one time, imagine a world with nowhere to hide and perhaps nobody left to hide. If ever a nuclear bomb drops into this world, somehow at this stage and height of scientific progress, there are no winners, but only losers. We can all live only if we all combined to struggle for WORLD PEACE.

At times I felt no matter what I tried to accomplish in the end, I will turn out as the loser. Am I a born loser especially being a woman? I often said that we all must die, so why can’t I take my life now, instead of going through all the unnecessary suffering. My teacher said that God gives us live and only He can take it away from us and not the other way round. As human, we must value live and do our out most to treasure every live as it is God gift to the world to keep the world going. This revelation scared me, and I almost lost faith and hope in my struggle to build a better world, if not life because how to begin to make the world right as I only see that the world will be more and more corrupted as it was control by the power of ‘Money’ and not “Love’. Often I felt weak to keep on struggling, yet deep down I know I must go on searching till I find the answer, my subconscious is playing with me. The only comfort given to me was the realization of the philosophy of Buddha – after suffering we will receive enlightenment. Will I be enlightened one day if I keep on striving for greater humanity? I really wonder in silence?

How I wish we could all strive to be Buddha because in the philosophy of Buddhism, it preach goodness, kindness and conduct in fairness, and ask only for happiness, this means achieving inner peace. At the age of 10 years old, I have decided to be a ‘Modern Buddha’. What do I meant by that? I told my teacher I did not want to be a Buddha sitting under a tree, I wanted to be a ‘Working Buddha’ by first embracing all the great values and make it work for the people. In short, walking Buddha, not doing the talk but do the walk too.

I had often prayed in the night to seek God for an answer to all misfortunes that are happening around us. Can we help this society to live in fairness? The least we could do is to teach them how to learn to share? At best, we must try to stop their minds to fight for power and greed! This will be the first step in building a better world for the children.

Let me share with you this experience that was taught to me when I was in primary school during the ethic lesson; until the system took away the ethic lesson we children learn nothing about life learning anymore except from books read literally to us – how boring! During one of the ethic lesson my teacher took a red apple and cut it into eight pieces and she hold it in her hand and called out each names to have a piece of the apple. After the eighth student had taken the last piece of apple this was what she said, “Children this action is called sharing and we need to share to have harmony.” How simple that act was but so symbolic. This simply act had enlighten my soul that till this day my values were based on such upbringing and belief.

I often wonder how many houses do the people wanted in order to feel happy and secure? How many diamonds and riches they needed before they think this world were fair to them? How many cars do they required before they feel they were the master riding ahead of the others? Why were people not happy and contended with what they had materialistically, they still want more? What was the missing link in their life to help them to be happy? At times I felt that there was no meaning to fight on or to keep on searching for an answer to life because as an ordinary person there was nothing much I could do to make things right or better for the people. Somehow I could not find the strength and courage to go on in my struggle and for an acceptance of my thoughts and beliefs because people find me weird and they called me a crazy girl, yet why do I persevere? I believe it must be for the Love of God.

•  ChongSunWah  10/05/2011 02:36 AM Report

My Growing Up Fear

I was born into this world of infinity, in search for my true self and a meaningful life. I believed I have a responsibility towards my country and people. During many sleepless nights, I had wondered why I came into this world of ‘unfairness’. Am I sent here to this place called ‘earth’ to suffer in order to learn something and then contribute it, so that it will benefit others? I don’t know, but somehow back in my mind, I felt I have a special purpose in this world to share with the people all that I had acquired, during the course of my struggle, to reach this goal.

For centuries, many people had tried to solve the problem of our beginning and yet till now the problem of our existence had not been solved. Searching for answers to reach the master, I often indulged myself for the true meaning of our survival. In view of what had happened around me, for instance why there were wars and at the same time why should we keep saving lives? It was so confusing in my young mind and when I questioned the teachers or the elders, their answer for me, as usual that when I grew up I will understand the real world and will learn to accept it because there is nothing we could do to change the world for the better.

In the first place, I didn’t want to be in this world and I never asked to be born to suffer, so why am I here, I often questioning God? Alone and young, I do not know where to start to go deeper into this search of a better life and a better world. Since the adults can’t give me an answer and I was not allowed to open my mouth that was how I turned to talk more and more to myself and especially in front of the mirror and then later to God looking at the window because my mother did not allowed me to look at the mirror to talk to myself. (She thought that I was crazy, because one of my aunts from my father side went to the mental hospital and she often talks to the mirror).

I often wondered what kind of a world was I living in; I really had no idea then? I could only ask were we born selfish without love that was why we didn’t care? Why this world was so unfair? Why do I believed in fairness and tried hard to achieve it? Why there was no equality? Why this world was filled with contradictions? This minute, they were talking of peace and the next minute, they were at war among each other! Why human nature was so destructive? Have they not realized it is time to save mankind before it was too late for humanity? Don’t they know we have only ONE world for all? Shouldn’t we start to learn how to share this beautiful world?

Strong feelings of love I felt for this world and yet I must admit it’s also this world that I fear the most. My greatest fear was not the people but it is their hungry and greedy thoughts. I fear not the weapons that were invented but I fear those who control these weapons, like God, and care not for the lives of the people at any cost! Why was I forced to channel all my energy and thoughts in this direction, and faced the hard fact of reality that life was unfair?

• doodee  10/05/2011 06:25 AM Report

It’s pretty clear from your writings, Sunflower, you derive power from being a ‘Victim’. The ‘Victim Mentality’ is nothing knew and is quite a popular trend and semi-acceptable excuse for bad behavior, irresponsibility, and general laziness. But still, is a very marketable

• doodee  10/05/2011 06:28 AM Report

… Not saying you’re the Devil. You’re just his willing tool.

Now if you’ll excuse me, it’s time to blow up a building.

 

• BENEZRAA  10/05/2011 10:39 AM Report

DEAR SUNFLOWER,

You are far more complex than some readers might acknowledge. In life it is not unusual to have experiences in which we are victimized, some more than others. I admire that you keep fighting to overcome your own experiences of victimization. I admire that you speak out. You strive to understand the world far beyond your own immediate circumstances, which are not easy circumstances, and you question everything and everyone, which means that you take nothing for granted, and that even when you have been fooled and made to feel a fool, you take responsibility for your life. It is not impossible that at least a part of you is still ruled by a “victim” mentality; but, it does not appear to me that your mind or your heart are only ruled by such a personality. You do not come across to me as one most likely to blow up a building, and I hope I am right in this, and I hope that this initial impression of you may be extended to your children as well. Are they well? Happy? Healthy? Productive? Perhaps even giving you grandchildren? May they bless in this New Year to be a source of joy and happiness to their mother, who surely strives as best she can to create a better world for her children to live in.

• worldwatcher  10/05/2011 10:52 AM Report

doodoo the *kookoo* — a Ziönist Jew — ranting about someone _else’s_ supposedly “Victim Mentality”.
Ohhh, the sheer *irony*!!
Ohhh, that’s rrreallly rrrich *CHHHUTZZZPAH*…
Ha-ha-ha…

ZIÖNIST Jews & ISRÄHELL play “THE *ETERNAL* VICTIM” card ALL THE TIME!!
Now, let’s apply “The (*Eternal*) Victim Mentality” to Ziönist Jews & Isrähell by quoting directly from doodoo, but merely correctly substituting *Ziönist Jews* in place of Sunflower:
“It’s pretty clear from your writings, ZIÖNIST JEWS, you derive power from being a[n *eternal*] ‘Victim’. The ‘Victim Mentality’ is nothing knew [i.e., *new*] and is quite a popular trend and acceptable excuse for bad behavior, irresponsibility, and general laziness [of Ziönist Jews to go build their own state, where no one else lives (like a desert in Navada), without stealing someone *else’s* land, water, labor and even *lives*]. But still, [it] is a very marketable concept; I think it’s the work of the Devil [i.e., represented by the ZIÖNISTS].”
And doodoo especially got his *last* sentence, above, right.
And isn’t that what I said before?:
” I know that you _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önists, like the *original* NAZIS, and all, especially, ideological racists represent the *Devil*!”

HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THAT WHEN ISRAELIS ARE ON THE ATTACK AND ARE EVEN MASSACRING CIVILIANS, THAT ISRAELIS ALWAYS PRETEND THAT *ISRAELIS* ARE *ALWAYS* _”THE VICTIMS”_ — and that they want “peace”?

• BENEZRAA  10/05/2011 11:49 AM Report

“HOW PALESTINE BECAME ISRAEL?”

Dear Sunflower,

Often a question says more about the knowledge or lack of knowledge of the person asking the question, as more often than not, the question presupposes the answer. When the dominant theme in the media is believed to be gospel, then questions such as yours appears obvious.

However, the correct question is, “When did Israel become Palestine?” It would be no disrespect to your honorable mother to ask this question and follow it through, wherever it leads you. Even a mother and even all our holy ancestors, are mortal beings. It is not impossible to teach the truth to our ancestors in a way that is respectful; and as a matter of responsibility, when our ancestors may have been wrong despite even the best of intentions, their wrongs be made right, when we ourselves do the right thing in their name and in our name and in His Name. At a higher level it is He, who makes things right; at the mundane level, having been granted Free Will, and having been made in His Image, it is our responsibility to do the best we can to honor Him, which includes honoring our ancestors without blindly repeating their mistakes.

This is almost an impossible task, as our ancestors are so much a part of our actual being. But, as each of us is a new being, having been brought into this world by His Design, each of us has the opportunity to live a unique life and to engage the world in unique ways that honor our ancestors and that honor Him (and please remember that although convention refers in language to Him in the male gender, He, being timeless, ubiquitous, and without form, is neither male nor female).

I think even a Buddhist would say that, while suffering may be a way to enlightenment, and while suffering may be the predominant way to enlightenment, suffering is not a necessary prerequisite to enlightenment. Therefore, as suffering is not prerequisite to enlightenment, you need not choose to suffer for the sake of suffering, and you need not deny your own life or choose to accept a life only of suffering in order to achieve enlightenment. Sometimes we may even fool ourselves, that we suffer by choice in order to achieve a higher spiritual status, or that we suffer at the hands of others for that same reason; such is a path to a life of slavery. Yet, a slave may achieve enlightenment, and then no longer remain enslaved (mental freedom, if not physical freedom). But, it is not necessary to be a slave in order to be enlightened. Nor does a life of freedom guarantee enlightenment.

Let us set aside our discussion of the Arab-Israeli Conflict and larger issues that challenge the world. Sometimes the life of one individual and her family is more important than the entire world. You have spoken of your own personal life, and I admire you for this. You have traveled and lived in much of the world, which in itself is quite an opener to the mind’s eye.

Where do you live now? When you escaped from Abu Dhabi, did you return to Singapore? What of your children? How are they and where are they? What of your mother and your father and your teacher? What of your ex-husband(s)? Are you presently married? Do you still fear all men? The world is filled with men, who fear women, and women, who fear men; and they all have reasons and life experiences for these emotions. Yet, in this same world there are men and women, who do not fear each other, do not hate each other, and who love each other. And others still, who transcend their fears. We may not understand, how it is, that the world we make for ourselves may be one of fear and hate rather than fearlessness and love. It is those, who live life fearless and in love, who hold up the world for the rest of us — with help from the Holy One, Blessed Be He.

• worldwatcher  10/05/2011 12:15 PM Report

ChongSunWah 10/04/2011 09:52 PM: “BENEZRAA WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP AND SEE THE TRUTH RIGHT IN FROM OF YOUR EYES.”

A FRIENDLY WARNING TO ChongSunWah:

ChongSunWah, I find your words — especially about Israel and Israeli/Zionist Jews — VERY PROFOUND, and they are good for people to read, but I will essentially re-post for you, the same friendly warning I gave to michael54:

worldwatcher 10/04/2011 02:36 AM: You see, michael54, doodoo may be a *kookoo*, but benezraa is a *moron* — and a *racist* moron at that — and a Zionist Jewish religious *fundamentalist* moron at that. He wishes to tie your time up, endlessly if you let him, in pointless Zionist religious fundamentalist moronic propaganda and dialogue — if you *let* him, while they (Zionists) pretend to be the *lamb* (and pretend to be *native/indigenous* to historic Palestine) and try to make the native Palestinians look like the *wolf* (and Zionists pretend to make the native/indigenous Palestinians look like the *Palestinians* are from a far-away foreign land).

AND FOR ZIÖNISTS LIKE DOODOO, POINTLESSLY TYING UP OTHER PEOPLE’S (CRITICS OF ISRAEL & ZIÖNISM) TIME IS ACTUALLY HIS FORM OF **ENTERTAINMENT**!
There are Zionist Jews whose job is to scour website comment pages (on the issue of Israel) and just do such a thing: pointlessly tie up other people’s time with one detail after another of Zionist propaganda lies. If you let benezraa or any other Zionist do that, and you finally realize that that’s what they’re doing, then don’t say you weren’t warned.

I almost never directly debate those crazy racist Ziönists directly. I like to make fun of their gross Ziönist hypöcrisy, although I sometimes will take one or maybe a couple of their main arguments to show other readers how ridiculous the usual Ziönist propaganda arguments really morally are upon informed examination/rebuttal.

(I’m a self-taught, all-10-fingers, rather proficient touch-typist — I don’t even need to look at the keyboard — so it’s pretty easy and almost effortless for me to type sometimes longer rebuttals.)
Also, I stick to the larger morality (or in the Ziönist case, immörality) of the argument and not let the Ziönist Jewish racists get me bogged down in their dust storm of Ziönist propaganda details. Often they will start out trying to play ‘the good cop’ (like trying to convince you how much Ziönist *Jews* have grievously suffered in historic Palestine — HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THAT WHEN ISRAELIS ARE ON THE ATTACK AND ARE EVEN MASSACRING PEOPLE, THAT ISRAELIS ALWAYS PRETEND THAT *ISRAELIS* ARE “THE VICTIMS” — and that they want “peace”), but if you effectively morally, intellectually or historically corner them, then (like benezraa) they’ll switch to ‘the bad cop’.

I find the most efficient way of rebutting Ziönist propaganda, because Ziönists often tell so many Ziönist lies, or they’ll try to sweep you off on irrelevant tangents about anything else (it’s called trying to *change* the argument/subject — like about Iran) that you, if they suckered you into it, could easily spend an hour just picking apart one comment post set of their racist lies, and then they just come back with another pack of Ziönist propaganda lies. This is how they (Ziönists) work. This is because, as I said before, ZIÖNISTS ARE *RACISTS* — AND *RACISTS* WANT WHAT *RACISTS* WANT!: and in this case, it’s Palestinian land.

(Because, if Ziönist Jews tried to take even just a small part of a larger country, like the *U.S.*, let alone 80% of it[as Ziönists did in historic Palestine], they would first be laughed off and then run off at the point of a gun, or, rather, *guns*!)
So, it’s not like you’re *EVER* going to intellectually or morally convince Ziönists — even by demonstrating their own double standards that they are morally wrong — even from their own past, like the European Jewish victims who’ve become the European Jewish victimizers.

And remember, Zionism began well before the European Jewish holocaust: European Jewish racists were dispossessing the Palestinian people even while European Christian racists in power were disposessing European Jews!

Racists (and, although there are many courageous anti-racist and therefore _*anti*-Zionist Jews_ that we never see or hear about on Western TV [_the Zionist Jews keep the *anti*-Zionist Jews off of Western TV_], let alone on PBS or The Charlie Rose Show, no law of physics or principles of neurology or psychology says that a Jew, especially a Ziönist Jew, can’t be racist) are always looking for or inventing *ANY EXCUSE* as to why they “deserve” what they *RACISTLY* want — and they will ALWAYS — endlessly — *’find’* or just *make up* one — no matter how utterly, insanely, and most of all obviously *ridiculous* if anyone non-Jewish said so, even that “God” promised the Jews Israel/Palestine 4,000 years ago (give or take a 1,000).

*RACISTS* WANT WHAT *RACISTS* WANT — and NO AMOUNT of moral arguments, or intellectual information, or demonstrations of double standards, or showing them that their propaganda version of history is false, can *ever* prove to them that they are *wrong*.

NO AMOUNT of moral arguments or intellectual information could prove to the *original* Nazis that they were wrong. Because, *RACISTS* WANT WHAT *RACIST* WANT! — and they’re not going to *stop* wanting whatever they WANT! — taken from people racists just consider *inferior*!

NO AMOUNT of moral arguments, or intellectual information, or demonstration of double standards — or even books, writings and lectures by anti-Zionist Jews — can prove to the hypöcritical _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önists that they are wrong. JEFFREY BLANKFORT (anti-Zionist Jewish writer, with articles online, and public lecturer) says that he doesn’t even waste time on trying to show Zionist Jews that they are morally, intellectually and historically wrong.

*ZIÖNIST RACISTS* WILL NOT WILLINGLY, POSITIVELY RESPOND TO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ASKING, “PLEASE GIVE US OUR LAND BACK.”

Because, *RACISTS* WANT WHAT *RACIST* WANT! — and *RACISTS* are not going to *stop* wanting whatever *RACISTS* — AS WELL AS *THIEVES* AND GREEDY PEOPLE — WANT! — AND THEY WILL USE *ANY EXCUSE* TO GET WHAT THEY WANT — UNTIL THEY ARE **STOPPED**!

So, ChongSunWah, you will *never* convince Ziönist *RACISTS*, like benezraa, who just want to *steal* Palestinian (whom _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist Jews regard as *inferior*) people’s land, and will use even the *any excuse* — however *ridiculous* — to do so — even claiming that “*God* promised the *Jews*” historic Palestine *3,000-5,000 years ago* — that they (the Ziönsts) are morally wrong.

•   ChongSunWah  10/05/2011 12:55 PM Report

BENEZRAA 10/05/2011 10:39 AM

You do not come across to me as one most likely to blow up a building, and I hope I am right in this, and I hope that this initial impression of you may be extended to your children as well. Are they well? Happy? Healthy? Productive? Perhaps even giving you grandchildren?

http://english.cntv.cn/program/travelogue/20110627/106708.shtml

My daughter Greta Georges Habib has a very beautiful soul.

She is a very happy child full of live for living whereas I am the opposite. If I have not escaped both of my children will be brought up with hate. My ex-husband was so happy when the Israelis killed the Muslim Lebanese and he wanted them to kill more of his people, I was in total shock. This happen when the Maronite Lebanese leader (cannot remembered his name) asked for help from Sharon….so long story to tell here.

Greta is so expressive with her words and she writes beautifully, she is a gift from God to me like a guiding angel. She is my soul-mate I can share with her all my dreams and aspirations for our one world. (Sometimes get scolding from her for thinking too much:) She is interested in social issue. She goes visiting to orphanages and old folk home in China.

If you raise your children to connect with their soul this is what you will get on your birthday and I got this beautiful card on my 53rd birthday.

To the Best Mother in the World Sunflower Chong.

From : Your Loving Children Gabriel & Greta

20/1/08

Dearest Mother,

Happy Birthday to you from your two grateful children. We feel so blessed to been given a chance to have you as a mom. You have such a raw and genuine spirit that is your own. You have successfully shown us that Happiness is not made of gold and silver or possessions; the feeling of joy and gratitude resides and dwells in you. There is no denying that love and peace that you radiate that makes you look even younger through time. We are so proud of the dreams that you have and the conviction, which is called the MORAL COURAGE. Bursting with possibilities, insight and inner and outer beauty. You BRING MORE LOVE & LIGHT in this world and in this year and many more to come. We love you unconditionally and through the years understand how rare and lovely a person you truly are. We thank you for having faith in us, both your children.

Mother, to be able to share the simple joy together is a real treat for us. May you always add the cheerful face to others and the world. May you understand the love that surrounds you is the love that you have already so freely give. Beauty, inner & outer that is what we see in you. Mother on this very special day, your birthday, we Gabriel & Greta take this chance to openly express our thanks, gratitude & above all love.

We could not be who we are if we did not take such serene happiness from you. Thank you for showing us what the true meaning of life is by living it fully. Nothing but good and power may come to you. Thank you for helping us grow. We love you eternally. Solid satisfaction in yourself help us to learn that we can achieve the joy & inner peace.

We wish you A Wonderful Birthday from the bottom of our hearts.

Your 2 children Gabriel & Greta

“May Our Love Burn Alight”

My daughter reads me like a book or understands me very well.

http://dearmmlee.wordpress.com/2011/07/10/communication-is-the-key-to-better-relationship/

• worldwatcher  10/05/2011 02:52 PM Report

BENEZRAA 10/05/2011 12:27 AM: ‘Even from you I didn’t expect to hear that “truth” comes from the writings of such Holocaust deniers of Walt and Mearsheimer:

It’s a common, favorite tactic of _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist Jews like benezraa try to smear anyone they disagree with by accusing others of being “Holocaust deniers”. This so, while benezaraa remains a confirmed, steadfast and inveterate *al-Naqba denier*.

But, if what benezraa said were true then the American organization “*Jewish* Voice for Peace” would *not* have invited Mearsheimer & Walt to be the guest speakers at a JVP public event.

If what benezraa said were true, then B’Tselem, a *Jewish* organization that monitors and reports on Israeli military atrocities and other human rights violations against Palestinians, would *not* have been invited to *Israel* itself as guest speakers to their event and *Israel* (where the Israel lobby is called “The Jewish Lobby”, which the state of Israel and Israeli politicians *brags* about) would not have let Mearsheimer & Walt in the country.

If what benezraa said were true then Mearsheimer & Walt would *not* have been invited to speak at The National Press Club in Washington, The Commonwealth Club, The World Affairs Council, C-SPAN, Harvard Law School, the University of Chicago, Berkeley Law School, UCLA, and just about every other top speaking institution and university (many with large Jewish student, professor and administrator populations), as well as various liberal Jewish organizations, in the country.

If what benezraa said were true, then Stephen Walt would *not* have been appointed a professor of International Affairs and the Dean of Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government — and John Mearsheimer would not have been appointed a University of Chicago professor, and awarded the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor, in addition to other academic awards, and elected to the prestigious American Academy of Arts and Sciences.

If what benezraa said were true, then Mearsheimer & Walt would *not* have been published by the very venerable and prestigious “Farrar, Straus and Giroux” book publishing company (who pubished such people as T. S. Eliot and other notables in the literary world, including lots of *Jewish* writers).

But, since benezraa politically strongly disagrees with such Jewish organizations, and strongly disagrees with those organizations and institutions for having Mearsheimer & Walt there, he would thus probably accuse them of being “Holocaust deniers” too!

So, this shows us how much the _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önistS *LIE*! — and — just like the *original*
NAZIS — by them NO LIE IS TOO BIG!

• BENEZRAA  10/06/2011 12:36 AM Report

DEAR SUNFLOWER CHONG

It is wonderful to hear that you obtain such joy and strength from your daughter, and the letter from both your daughter and you son is a treasure. May your son also be a great source of joy and pride to you. And may you yourself find once again the childlike joy in life that is so important to maintaining a youthful and optimistic mind, looking forward to the good that mankind may accomplish, and bringing light to the dark corners of the world from the individual mind to the mass insanity caused by a lack of love and a lack of respect for life. If ever you are in the USA, you and your family are welcome to be my guests.

• ChongSunWah  10/06/2011 01:46 AM Report

Thanks very much for the invitation it is very kind of you.

Because of WHD we got a Jewish friend in New York name Perry from  www.worldharmonyunlimited.com and Greta stay with his family. He thanks me for sharing Greta to the world, so sweet of him. Greta is entertaining very bubbling in character. Now she is not with me house very quiet.

Perry is always very encouraging and supports me in my cause.

Monday, February 21, 2005 2:47 AM

Congratulations on another World Harmony Day event! Although it’s nice to have large numbers of people coming out, it’s really not the quantity of individuals who attended that matters so much. All you have to do is offer the experience and all it takes is 1 person to start a movement, discover a cure, save a life, find love. Be proud, walk tall and keep up the great work.

Peace, love & light,

Perry

Sunflower Chong wrote:

Dearest Trevor & Perry,

The event was good but the crowd was not there about less than 100. The 9 years old girl poem was very good written by her and Greta questioned her about her thoughts for the world and she gives a very good reply.

After 4 years the crowd getting lesser and lesser this meant it will not be easy to build such a movement. My spirit is very low and I have to get back to the real life. Tomorrow will be another day.
The greatest blessing in doing WHD is that Greta has met many beautiful people who gave her a lot of support in helping her realizing her dream. Greta has shown me the film that both of you do together it is just great.

Maybe WHD is only a tool to get her to know Perry and Trevor and not to build this great idealism that the whole world can come together on 20th Feb annually.

Good night, sweet dream.

With great love,

Sunflower

This is one of my favorite poem.

VIRTUE

Faith, Hope and Charity,
Are virtues to cling to eternally.
The moral goodness,
Are ours to inherit.
The uprightness,
Is up to us to maintain.
The moral excellence of an individual,
Is purity.
The inherent power,
Is the real power to realize dream and goal.
I have faith, to give me the hope,
To achieve my dream for the people.

– The joy and love of mine is to give hope to people – Sunflower 1983

DEAR BENEZRAA I STILL WANT A HOMELAND FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE SO WHEN YOU THINK THEY CAN HAVE A HOMELAND?

• BENEZRAA  10/06/2011 08:47 AM Report

DEAR SUNFLOWER

There are already many homes for the Palestinian Arabs and many homes for the Palestinian Jews. Unfortunately or fortunately, due to war and hatred, love and curiosity, differences of language, culture, religion, and the tugs of war and trade of international interests, most of these homes are homes in foreign lands. Yet with the grace of the Holy One, Blessed Be He, exile may be benign, not always malevolent. As well, Israel is a home for Jews and Arabs and many others. As it says in the Bible, Israel is a “House of Prayer for All Nations: Perhaps one day the UN will have its center in the Holy Land and be inspired by both the Arabs and the Jews and the Christians and everyone else — Buddhist, Hindu, Bahai, Druse, etc. — who live there and make Israel the inspiring and thriving place that it is to all nations. The biggest threat to the Holy Land is that the three apocalyptic faiths will be so insistent on Armageddon that with today’s weapons the Holy Land may be made into a crater, perhaps a crater of glass, given the ubiquitous sand. Then the insane survivors of the insane combatants may still fight for possession of the Holy Crater, all having forgotten that the Holy Land belongs to the Holy One, Blessed Be He.

• worldwatcher  10/06/2011 01:53 PM Report

ChongSunWah 10/06/2011 01:46 AM: “DEAR BENEZRAA I STILL WANT A HOMELAND FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE SO WHEN YOU THINK THEY CAN HAVE A HOMELAND?”

ChongSunWah the Palestinian people (Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Druze, other, secular) *do* have a homeland. It’s called all of historic *Palestine* — until the foreign *racist* European Ziönist colonial Jews took most of Palestine *away* from the Palestinian people.

So, the real questions should be, when will historic Palestine be *DE*-COLONIZED of the racist *THEOCRATIC* apartheid ideology of Ziönism (with Israel being a semi-theocratic state), and when will historic Palestine (a totally innocent victim of Ziönism) be *RE*-UNIFIED (like even Germany was), and when will historic Palestine become a secular, truly democratic state (and not just a so-called “democracy” for *only* Israeli Jews), and with absolutely equal national, civil and legal rights for everyone in all of historic Palestine regardless of race, ethnicity or religion? — what the PLO had always called for.

But, in fact, in Israel today — an ideologically Ziönist Jewish-supremacist state — it is *ILLEGAL* — punishable as a *crime* — for any politician to call for this absolute national, civil and legal equality regardless of race, ethnicity or religion.

_*ANTI-ZIÖNISM*_ is the only position that any truly anti-racist MORAL person can have — a position that neither Benezraa has as an evident right-winger (a conservative Ziönist racist, although he tries to *pretend* that he’s a ‘New Age’ “liberal”) — or that Noam Chomsky (a liberal Ziönist racist) has as a so-called

• BENEZRAA  10/06/2011 03:34 PM Report

WW

Druze, Buddhists, Bahai, etc. have taken refuge and flourished in Israel, having been terribly persecuted across the Muslim world, which in case you forget includes the majority of Africa and Asia. If life was so terrible for the Muslim citizens of Israel, they’d have left long ago. You are either oblivious or in denial about such things.

But, let me ask you: if a Zionist Israel is in your opinion immoral, is there any Israel that you would support? What is your solution to the Arab-Israeli Conflict? What is your solution to the needs of Palestinians, be they Arabs or Jews, Bahai, Druze, Christians, etc.?

• worldwatcher  10/06/2011 08:23 PM Report

BENEZRÄA (*’Goebbels’* at work): “If life was so terrible for the Muslim citizens of Israel, they’d have left long ago.”

So, why didn’t they leave? The same reason that *black* South Africans didn’t leave South Africa when South Africa declared itself a white Christian-supremacist apartheid state (which was the same year that apartheid Israel declared itself a Ziönist Jewish-supremacist apartheid state): because it’s the Palestinian’s *homeland* you stärk räving räcist _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist pig!

–Although, millions of Palestinians were driven off from their homes. Almost the entire population of the Gaza Strip are internal refugees driven from their homes in today’s Jewish-supremacist colonial state of Israel, along with over a million Palestinians in 1947 & 1948 alone!

(Note, ChongSunWah, this räcist _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist pig, Benezräa, won’t even call the Palestinians the *Palestinians* — won’t even recognize the Palestinians as *a people* — but wants the Palestinian people to recognize Israel as an ideologically Ziönist Jewish-supremacist state.)

BENEZRÄA (*’Goebbels’* at work): “What is your solution to the Arab-Israeli Conflict? What is your solution to the needs of Palestinians, be they Arabs or Jews, Bahai, Druze, Christians, etc.?”
I’VE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION you räcist _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist pig. So, now, go ask ChongSunWah.

BENEZRÄA (*’Goebbels’* at work): “Druze, Buddhists, Bahai, etc. have taken refuge and flourished in Israel”

Yes, you keep repeating this _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist pröpaganda line of yours.

_NA_TIÖNALIST _ZI_ÖNIST PRÖPAGANDISTS ARE EVEN BETTER THAN THE *ORIGINAL* NAZI PRÖPAGANDISTS

— BECAUSE THE _NA_TIÖNALIST _ZI_ÖNIST PRÖPAGANDA, AND THE _NA_TIÖNALIST _ZI_ÖNIST STATE HAS LASTED FOR MANY DECADES LONGER!
(See online: “20 Parallels of Zionism with Nazism”)

First of all, Buddhists in Israel are a miniscule percentage — less than 0.1% of the population. This, although almost anyone can call themselves “Buddhist”, if they want to, and still be some other religion (liberal Christian, Jewish or whatever), if they still want to, or *no* other religion, as long as they supposedly accept/practice the basic general philosophy/precepts of Buddhism (which is generally rather easy to follow, and includes respect for all life, and is *supposed* to be somewhat egalitarianism in its modern form), which isn’t that hard if you’re supposedly, or claim to be, a “liberal” (so obviously a Zionist Buddhist would be really yet *another* Jewish hypocrisy and contradiction in terms).

Most “Buddhists” in Israel are probably “liberal” &/or non-religious Israeli *Jews* who call themselves “Buddhist” (just like many “liberal” Jews in the U.S. [like the filmmaker Oliver Stone]), people who’ve been disaffected from the known hypocrisies or mundaneness of their own religion, but are still politically *Ziönist*. They are *not* Asian Tibetan Buddhists — who know what colonization and foreign oppression means — walking around in orange & yellow robes. I’m sure the situation with “Bahais” in Israel is the same — mostly “liberal” Israeli Jews. Furthermore, Buddhists were recently warned not to open a new Buddhist Center in Israel.

I’m sure that Bahias in Israel are, likewise, a miniscule percentage. And might also include Jewish converts/followers — although Israel keeps periodically threatening to actually pass legislative laws against any Jew converting to any other religion. At any rate, no one is really equal to (especially, white/European) Jews in Israel — unless they are (especially, white/European) *Jewish*. Btw, have you heard about all the _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist Jewish radical extremist fundamentalists in Israel running around burning down mosques?

Despite *Israeli* Druze, in general, collaborating with Israeli Ziönism and being Isräel’s most loyal citizens — even more loyal than many so-called “liberal” Isräeli *Jews* who sometimes harshly criticize Isräeli state policy as being counterproductive to the longtime interest of Ziönism and the Isräeli state, and who often protest against the Israeli government for not giving them (Jews) enough benefits — the Druze are among Isräel’s most deprived citizens, showing that oppressors really don’t respect collaborators (no more than the *original* NAZIS respected *Jewish* collaborators); oppressors just *USE* collaborators. This is because collaborators may *serve* the *interests* of the oppressors, but collaborators can never be one *of* the oppressors (racially, ethnically, religious, etc.) — can *never*, in the eyes of the oppressors, be the oppressors *equals*.

Or, as one person put it, in Israel, if you are not European/white Jewish, you, perhaps, can sometimes be *among* European Jews (typically in separate, and lesser, neighborhoods if you are not Jewish), but you will never really be one *of* them (Jewish), and European Israeli Jews will never really treat you *like* one *of* them.

This should be no surprise if European/white Jews even racistly discriminated against even the very small percentage of native Palestinian Jews and other *non*-European Jews (often, in the past, driven from Arab countries by Israeli terrorists posing as Arab). (Israel has been trying to entice some 25,-30,000 native *Iranian* Jews into leaving Iran, but those Jews persist in staying in *Iran* and one prominent Iranian Jew who moved to Israel, later, out of disgust with Israel’s racism against the Palestinian people, moved back to *Iran*!)

Of course, non-Israeli Druze — like Druze, who reject Israel, on land Israel stole from Syria — and Israel, in its ever-ongoing search for _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist *labensraum* has stolen land — from every one of its neighboring countries — are treated with much more open contempt, abuse and disregard by Israel.

These are a few paragraphs from an article entitled,

“DESPITE LOYALTY TO THE STATE, DRUZE SECT HAS BECOME ISRAEL’S MOST DEPRIVED GROUP”:

“Equality between Druze and Jews only takes place in the funeral of a Druze casualty killed in battle. Only then, near the coffin, such soldier gets equality. There, near the coffin draped in the Israeli flag, we see politicians appear and make various statements. Regrettably, this is where equality starts and ends, once the coffin is lowered into the ground.
“The confiscation of land and the shortage of water turned Druze farmers into the lowliest menial laborers. Druze land was has been confiscated to an even larger extent than land from Arab communities, and bear in mind that this is a sect with a longtime agricultural tradition.

“After 61 years of complete identification [collaboration] with the State of Israel, its aims and struggles, the Druze sect is the least educated. Its economic state – the infrastructure in the villages, the state of industry, public institutions – is terrible. The unemployment rate among young Druze in the wake of their army service is gravely high. Unemployment among Druze women reached 80%, after in recent years we saw the closure of most textile plants in Druze villages in the north.

“The Druze serve in the IDF and fulfill their duties to a larger extent than *Jewish* teens do. Therefore, it is so surprising and outrageous to see and feel that after 61 years of independence, the Druze are the most deprived group in the country – even compared to other minorities – when it comes to civil rights, equal opportunity, and equality in resources and jobs.”

YOU SEE, ISRAEL IS JUST ONE BIG *LIE*
— ISRAEL WAS INCEPTED BY ZIONIST JEWISH TERRORISM
— ISRAEL *ITSELF* IS AN ACT OF TERRORISM
— AND THE PERPETRATION OF ZIÖNISM IN PALESTINE IS WHAT GANDHI CALLED _”A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY”_!

• BENEZRAA  10/07/2011 12:44 AM Report

WW

You say that you already answered my question as to what your solution to the Arab-Israeli Conflict may be. I have no trouble recalling that, according to you I may as well be Goebbels, a racist, a fundamentalist fanatic, etc. and that Israel is a fascist “NAtional ZIonist” imperialist nation, etc. You repeat these slogans ad nauseum. These pages are filled with your ad nausea. Yet, there is no repetition of your solution, only your insane epithets and I have no recollection that you have ever offered a solution! Surely, honest and kind and generous as you are, you must indeed have offered a solution, for you say that you did, and you wouldn’t lie — would you? So, please condescend to repeat your solution to the Arab-Israeli Conflict. The whole world is waiting to hear it!

• worldwatcher  10/07/2011 01:52 AM Report

re BENEZRAA (‘Goebbels’ at work) 10/07/2011 12:44 AM: “You say that you already answered my question as to what your solution to the Arab-Israeli Conflict may be. … So, please condescend to repeat your solution to the Arab-Israeli Conflict.”

Yo ‘Goebbels’! I’m not here to *school* you! Decency to other human beings — WHAT *ANTI*-ZIONIST JEWS KNOW — is what ya *mama* and ya *daddy* were supposed to school you in, …if *they* had any.

I couldn’t care less *what* you, in particular, think — or to try to convince *you*, in particular, of anything! You can go back in my posts and find the answer already repeated in several of them. I’m not repeating a special, morally remedial, lesson answer just for *you*… But, as I also said in previous posts, I know that a *racist* wants what a *racist* wants — and in this case it’s the Palestinian people’s land.

I’m not here to answer *your* questions… I’m here to help *EXPOSE* you grössly *hypöcritical* räcist _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist Jews — for exactly what you *are* — and to *EXPOSE* your grössly *hypöcritical* räcist _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist Jewish pröpaganda and cöded wörds/phrases for what *they* really, ideölogically & pölitically mean!

(Maybe one day, perhaps 5-10 years from now — although I doubt that Israel will last another 10 years at the most as a _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist state, if as the colonial state of Israel at all [European colonial states all over the Mideast, Africa and Asia have come and gone, some in just a century or less] — because in another 5 years Israel will be *clearly* seen by even the majority of the people of the West as a fascist racist state [Israel will become more fascist in a desperate attempt to continue to exist] against the Palestinian people [or, like racist apartheid South Africa, Israel’s racist apartheid system will be forced into the dust bin of history] — Israel will continue to even more so become an embarrassment to more and more younger Western Jews (especially the non-religious ones) — Charlie Rose will be embarrassed that he ever had some of those _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist racists, like Ariel Sharön and Netanyahü, on his show — especially, speaking unopposed.)

So, I’ll give you the same answer that I gave you below (worldwatcher 10/06/2011 08:23 PM):
I’VE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION you räcist _NA_tiönalist _ZI_önist pig.
So, now, go ask ChongSunWah.

• ChongSunWah  10/07/2011 08:08 AM Report

My teacher told us the words anger, jealousy and hatred must be out of our vocabulary because they are toxic. I detect great anger and maybe some hatred and this is not healthy at all if we are seriously in wanting to find a solution to the Israelis and Palestinians conflict.

World Peace

The root of mankind
Is to carry World Peace in mind
Freedom from war
We are constantly praying for
To be in a state of tranquility
Requires minds of great intellectual quality
Eternal harmony of peace
We have to seek like daily needs
Peace establishment
Make it our motto of fulfillment
Heralds/Messengers/Proclaimers/Perpetrators of peace
Are universal love and happiness indeed?

-Peace in mind is Peace in life – Sunflower 1983

We are not moving forward just back and fore in the argument on who is right and who is wrong. After 63 years we are back to square one because as long as America is not going to be a fair and just broker in this conflict there is no HOPE for peace.

Netanyahu cannot be a hero neither can President Obama they might end up like Rabin. So how my brothers Worldwatcher and Benezraa including doodoo or doodah?

The only way I see there must be an Arab Spring in Israel and the people from the ground will force the government to act for the sake of the future generations can live in peace and harmony. I will try to write a petition and ask my Israelis brothers and sisters to have great compassion for the Palestinian people to help them to have a homeland. At least I am doing something positive. When I manage to come out with the draft I will post it on this site.

• doodee  10/07/2011 08:22 AM Report

I agree, Sunflower. And THAT IS WHAT’S HAPPENING! It’s obvious that, Netanyahuey is reacting to the will of the Democracy, it doesn’t matter what he personally wants to do. But he will try to balance his beliefs and those of his base with the changing majority will of Israeli’s citizens. That’s how Democracy works, it’s slow and messy, but it’s the Fairest; and hopefully if the terrorism is taken down a few notches someday the Jews and Arabs can be one big happy family again. There doesn’t Have to be an Armageddon.

btw, thanks for including me as one of your brothers. Thx sis 🙂

• ChongSunWah  10/07/2011 12:14 PM Report

OK Worldwatcher let be serious I need to write a petition for a Palestine. It goes like this, what do you think?

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, The people of the free world cannot take all these senseless killing anymore between Israelis and Palestinians.

The Palestinian people need your help to declare their independence! Please find it in your heart to help them call for a homeland that is long overdue

• worldwatcher  10/07/2011 04:59 PM Report

ChongSunWah 10/07/2011 12:14 PM: ” OK Worldwatcher let be serious I need to write a petition for a Palestine. It goes like this, what do you think?”

Hey ChongSunWah, I offered some corrections (based on: worldwatcher 10/06/2011 01:53 PM) in capital letters at the end of, otherwise, your petition:

“ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, The people of the free world cannot take all these senseless killing anymore between Israelis and Palestinians.

The Palestinian people need your help to declare their independence!!!! Please find it in your heart to help RETURN THEIR *NATIVE* HOMELAND TO THEM AND *RE-UNIFY* HISTORIC PALESTINE AS A SECULAR, DEMOCRATIC, MULTICULTURAL STATE WITH ABSOLUTELY EQUAL NATIONAL, CIVIL AND LEGAL RIGHTS FOR *ALL* ITS INHABITANTS, REGARDLESS OF RACE, ETHNICITY OR RELIGION: this is long overdue. ANYONE WHO DOESN’T WANT THAT WOULD BE FREE TO LEAVE.”

• ChongSunWah  10/08/2011 02:56 AM Report

Dear Worldwatcher,

Thank you very much for editing my draft. I was thinking to post it at http://www.gopetition.com/how-to-start-a-petition.php. What do you think?

But before I post it I got to ask you what about the 1967 border. I thought that was kind of agreed in Oslo and the starting point of the 2 states side by side each other. The one you help me to edit sure the Israelis would not agree to it, do you think they got the spirit of Nelson Mandela?

“I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear.” – Nelson Mandela

“ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, The people of the free world cannot take all these senseless killing anymore between Israelis and Palestinians.

The Palestinian people need your help to declare their independence!!!!! Please find it in your heart to help RETURN THEIR *NATIVE* HOMELAND TO THEM AND *RE-UNIFY* HISTORIC PALESTINE AS A SECULAR, DEMOCRATIC, MULTICULTURAL STATE WITH ABSOLUTELY EQUAL NATIONAL, CIVIL AND LEGAL RIGHTS FOR *ALL* ITS INHABITANTS, REGARDLESS OF RACE, ETHNICITY OR RELIGION: this is long overdue. ANYONE WHO DOESN’T WANT THAT WOULD BE FREE TO LEAVE.”

This sentence is too harsh “ANYONE WHO DOESN’T WANT THAT WOULD BE FREE TO LEAVE.”

• ChongSunWah  10/09/2011 01:37 AM Report

This is the log of Sonja Karkar
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2007/03/31/who-does-israel-really-belong-to/

You know the Japanese wanted a pure country too but that was not possible because many Japanese got Korean blood but they don’t admit it only. Before I got married to my good Lebanese man (I am the bad one because even after marriage I still wanted to chase my dream for the world instead to be a good wife. So cannot be good wife better be the BEST MOTHER in the world so God will loves me always:)) I was working as an air-hostess in Belgium at the age of 18 in 1974. My best friend was Eiko San and her father was a Korean but nobody knew except me. She was comfortable to tell me the truth because we Singaporeans love everyone. She told me many Japanese stories were like hers.

Now Japan is in big trouble their population are getting older and older not many young people giving births and they do not want outsiders to change their life style, so how?

Just like in the west the people are not comfortable with the new migrants that are changing their way of life. They are fighting with all their might to stop the flow of their influences.

In the east in the late 60’s because of industrialization the westerners came in numbers and the local people were not happy with the bad practices that they had brought to our shore and thus change our way of life and thinking. (long argument what was good or bad they have brought to our people. The one thing I can tell you my teacher said that if we were not careful this Capitalist world will rob us of our soul and consciousness thus we will lose our true self. Like you got a great dream you will lose it if you allow money to take over.) But in Singapore we got a strong man who was pragmatic said we got no choice because for the sake of survival and progress we need to compromise. He believed the good out weight the bad influences. The other neighboring countries stand firm and kept their way of life as long as they could, good or bad we all got eyes to see.

It is a naturally instinct to fight to uphold one IDENTITY but for how long? Therefore all these tell us we got to find a way to educate the future generations that purity in race is NOT POSSIBLE. When I was an air-hostess we were discussing that the white race were very fearful because if they inter-marriage there will not be any white race left in the Universal so in the Scandinavian countries they are stopping immigration.

• ChongSunWah  10/09/2011 06:40 AM Report

Sorry it is not Sonja Karkar blog but on that page right below no 12 Falcon very interesting, Benezraa my brother please read them all.

12 Falcon said,

August 29, 2009 at 11:16

Israels current theology is not shared by true Torah Jews. The current ocupiers of Israel are mostly converts to the Jewish faith that migrated from the land of Magog. These Zionist are Gog from Magog. The land from which they came is northern Europe, between the black and Caspian sea. They are colonizers of a land not theirs, and never has been theirs. If America quits financially, politically, and militarily supporting Israel, she would soon quit being a source of war in the region. She is a European colony, a holdover of another age and thinking, in which Europe felt it could impose borders and create society and culture in other people’s lands. Almost 90% of Israel comes from Europe and most of those came to Judaism through conversion.

• ChongSunWah  10/09/2011 06:56 AM Report

Dear Benezraa, below article Big Fish said Jewish people are the new nazi

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/death-to-dead-arabs/

Big Fish said,

October 9, 2011 at 03:37

Yep, the new nazis.

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October 9, 2011 at 05:05

[…] DEATH TO DEAD ARABS […]

Geltmeister said,

October 9, 2011 at 07:49

Isn’t it weird how we are supposed to believe that Jewish graves are regularly desecrated with swastikas in the West, and yet in Israel we see Jews doing the exact same thing to graves?
Isn’t it weird how Israel invented the car-bomb and now every car-bomb that explodes in the world is a Moslem terrorist bomb?

Isn’t it weird that Jews claim to be the victims of ethnic cleansing when all we see is them imprisoning and torturing Palestinians so they can steal their land.

Are the Israelis the biggest hypocrites on the planet or just plain old fashioned liars?

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