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Petition for a Palestinian Homeland

 

THE EVIL ROTSCHILD ZIONISM STOLE THE LAND OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, PERIOD!!

AND NOW WE 7 BILLION HUMANITY WANT IT BACK  FOR ALL ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS AS ONE DEMOCRATIC STATE UNDER THE NAME PALESTINE AND NO DISCUSSION, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME!!

CALL FOR SUPPORT FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE PETITION

On Friday, February 12, 2016 10:46 AM, marie <marie@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dearest Sunflower,

As always, I am sending Janie’s message as soon as I receive it….hope you like the news on the views of CCB #6! The petition news is not so good.

Love you, Marie

From: Jane <jane@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:42 PM
To: marie ; hair dresser
Subject: Feedback!

Dear Marie and Steve,

I have feedback on CCB #6 and it’s mostly good! First 24 hours views according to YouTube tech people: 624,559 VIEWS! That’s a new record! http://thepoisonappleoftheworld.com/ccb-creaming-6-an-ultimatum-for-the-babylonian-joos-on-palestine/

Now on the down side, I got this comment:

“Shitflower, you scuzzy bitch! We are going to do everything possible to block the idiots who follow your lying blogs from communicating on World Harmony Day! http://thepoisonappleoftheworld.com/where-is-solutions-institute-president-dan-johnson-integrity-because-he-wiped-out-world-harmony-day-site/ We proud and beautiful Zionist women are also going to make sure that shit petition doesn’t move…. Scumflower, had any complaints about accessing the petition, you Singaporean whore? http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html We will yet use your mop of hair for toilet paper to wipe our superior Zionist asses!!!”

OK, that’s all I have so far. Love to you both and my dear Sunflower!

Janie

 

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Evil Zionist Joos you think I forget which video I put here, my mother called me the Computer Mind so I REMEMBERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don’t visit my blogs you are not welcome here!!!

Maher Zain – Palestine Will Be Free | ماهر زين – فلسطين سوف تتحرر | Official Music Video

Uploaded on Aug 8, 2009

Maher Zain – Palestine Will Be Free | Official Music video from the album”Thank You Allah”. Watch entire album videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…

 

CALL FOR SUPPORT FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE PETITION

Dear Brothers & Sisters of our One World,

Please support this Petition for a One Democratic State. No more negotiation with Zionist Israel who does not honor their words like freeing the last batch of prisoners as agreed. If they failed to honor the 1993 Oslo Agreement signed by Rabin how can we still believe they will give the Palestinian people the 22% of the land and now not even 22% left less then 18% they still keep giving excuses not to sign the Peace Agreement.

Sign The Petition

After I mass emails more then 5000 mails Google block this link http://unispal.un.org/Unispal.Nsf/solidarity.htm?OpenForm so I complained to UN and told them GOOGLE PLAY DIRTY and NOT NEUTRAL and the very next morning Google released the links.

SAVE PALESTINE TO SAVE THE WORLD

Dear Brothers & Sisters,

We do not need to do great things – We need to do all things with great care. We must let the Palestinian people know that We Care for them by standing in Solidarity on World Harmony Day 20th February 2015 http://worldharmonyday.com/my-vision-for-world-harmony-day/

The Palestinian people and I sincerely hope to get your full support and please help to spread the word to the world. We will be forever grateful and may God blesses all of you and your family.

 

Love, light, peace, harmony and unity,
Sunflower Chong

Post by ‎شهاب‎.

Sally Ann Sturman Heart-breaking. The deafening silence of the so-called ‘civilised’ world to Israel’s crimes against humanity, illegal occupation, continual land theft, contravening of over 60 international laws and genocide of the Palestinians fills me with anger and despair. When people say ‘Oh why can’t they all just live in peace?’ Before the inception of Zionism around 100 years ago and the subsequent creation of Rothschild’s Israel, Jews, Christians and Muslims did live in peace for centuries. The Muslim world was one of the places where Jews were not persecuted, pogromed and murdered and look how they are repaid! It was ‘Christian’ European Anti-Semitism which persecuted, pogromed and murdered the Jews and was actively encouraged by Zionists to ‘help the Zionist cause’ (read Herzl’s diaries). Zionists like the Rothschilds et al also funded the world wars on both sides, including Hitler’s rise to power and the Holocaust, culminating in the deaths of 6 million Jews and 13 million Gentiles (rarely do we hear about those). The vast majority of Jews who were massacred did not want anything to do with Zionism and it was seen as an embarrassment and something they didn’t want their children to ever be involved in, because the creation of an ‘Israel’ goes directly against the teachings in the Torah.

After the Holocaust, which ‘eliminated any opposition’ to the creation of an Israel, the Zionists, despicably using emotional guilt against the world when they themselves were orchestral in it, were ‘granted’ Palestine by the British with the Balfour Declaration (including respecting the indigenous Palestinians!), under the assurance that the they would get the USA as allies in WW2. Enter Pearl Harbour. Palestine was never a ‘land without a people for a people without a land’; it had thriving, modern cities with everything that comes with that, not to mention hundreds of thousands of Palestinians (Miko Peled’s book, ‘The General’s Son’ debunks many of the myths. His father was an Israeli soldier in 1948 and a General in 1967 so knows more than most).

Rothschild’s Israel was founded on terrorism with the expulsion of the Palestinians who for 66 years are still denied the right to return to their homes and lands they still hold deeds for, the massacres, the decimation of Palestinian towns and villages, the destruction of their heritage and holy books, the bombing of the King David Hotel by Irgun, burning synagogues and churches while dressed as Arabs to blame them (and their false flags blaming Muslims continue to this day a la Mossad – ‘Thou shalt do war by way of deception’). Rothschild’s Israel was never created for any religion, except the ‘religion’ of greed and control. Jews have been used as a tool for the greedy 1% to have control in the most important land in the world for all 3 Abrahamic faiths. Zionists have tried to change the Jewish faith into a political, racist, supremacist ideology as far removed from God as one can get (ask Rabbi Weiss) and they are trying their best to do the same with Islam, by creating, arming/funding hired heart-eating thugs from all over the globe of no religion, labelling them ‘Islamists’ and putting it under the umbrella of Islam. Zionists are the ones who pushed for multiculturalism in Europe and the USA, knowing folks would blame each other and it would fail, while wanting only one ‘race’ in Rothschild’s Israel. They divide everyone with propaganda in their mainstream media (96% owned by them) to justify perpetual wars for themselves that other people’s children fight and die in, not for our ‘freedoms’, for their private banks and huge corporations. They want to eliminate religions, they want to decimate the ‘white race’ and bring forward Armageddon. Zionism is the biggest threat to peace in the world. It’s the enemy of Jews, Christians, Muslims and the whole of humanity.

People need to open their eyes, turn off the TV and search for themselves this pack of lies sold over the years about Israel. If folks are fearful of being labelled an ‘Anti-Semite’, they needn’t be… The majority of Israeli Jews are Ashkenazis, whose ancestors converted to Judaism and never set foot in the Holy land. Yet the Palestinians, whose suffering for 66 years is largely ignored, ARE Semitic and whether they are Muslims, Jews or Christians, their ancestors were more than likely Jews. The so-called ‘Christian’ Zionists who profess to love Jews and call for ‘death to all Palestinians’ probably never think about that. Long live Palestine!
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Fahad Hassan WHO cares!!!

People didn’t care for centuries, Why would they care now!? Because of a dead child!? They didn’t care about Mohammad Al Durra 30. September 2000. An innocent boy hidden behind his dad, who took some bullets but sadly, some of those went through the father and killed the child!!! ON LIVE TV!!!!!!! Live tv!!! Why would they care now!? They didn’t care about the women that was taken away form her children by Israeli soldiers, and then left the children alone on the streets, without a dad!! Why would they care now!? They didn’t care about the child who held his moms head while she was dying from her wounds after Israel bombed there home!? Why would they care now!? Israel uses illegal weapons who cares!? Israel take innocent prisoners! Who cares! How many devastating videos and pictures have we seen of brutal killing on innocent men women and children. They still don’t care!! An almost complete genocide on Palestinian people for centuries!! They still don’t care! Maybe you should all die! Some might care remembering these people in some history books!!! And people would read about it. and believe me they still don’t care!! Your lives is worthless in the eyes of all governments!! They care about sending money, food, cloths, and some medicin!!! That’s what they can do! They can’t stop killing they can’t stop terror!! They can’t help you move! They can’t interfere! They can’t SAVE YOU!!! They can talk!! We can talk everyone can talk everyone can post pictures and videos get likes comments shares!!! And still no one cares!!!

WE ARE FUCKING DISGUSTING!!! WE ARE WORTHLESS!! WE DONT MEAN ANYTHING FOR ANYONE! Because the best we can do is protesting on the streets! Banners. Pictures, shout and scream!! Even there no one cares!!! You are waisting time posting! That does not end killing! You should stop screaming and shouting! Because no one is hearing you. Go to sleep Wake up tomorrow! Have fun enjoy that the killing is no where near you!! get a happy meal at MC Donald’s! Because Tears and hunger is far away from you!! But belive me time changes! And what happens there might one day happen to you!! And remember u didn’t care! So don’t expect people would care when that day comes!!
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From Steve Anderson on WHY PALESTINE?

There will be no peace for Palestine, not while the Americans support the Nazionists.. Nice page Sunflower. keep up your good work.

2014 Hisham Sharabi Memorial Lecture: “Hisham Sharabi: Addicted to Precision”

Published on May 29, 2014

Wednesday, 28 May 2014
The Palestine Center
Washington, DC

Ambassador Clovis Maksoud discusses the life and work of Hisham Sharabi, his dedication to precision, and also addresses how he believes Sharabi would view the current state of the question of Palestine and the broader Middle East today.

 

ISRAEL IS AN ILLEGAL STATE! US GAVE THEIR WORD TO THE SAUDI KING FAISAL BIN ABDUL AZIZ THAT THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT THE PARTITION OF PALESTINE BUT THEY BETRAYED THE SAUDI KING LIKE HOW THEY HAVE BETRAYED MICHAIL GORBACHEV!!

لفلم الوثائقي الممنوع من النشر بيت آل سعود(كامل) House Of Saud

 

Published on Apr 26, 2012

House of Saud – فيلم بيت آل سعود – كامل مترجم

 

CONVERSATION FROM CHARLIE ROSE SHOW

http://archive.today/mkdK5#selection-971.0-4611.1

REMant  10/28/2011 11:12 AM Report

David Ignatius yesterday revealed in the Post a portion of Condoleeza Rice’s memoir to be released in a few days, which indicates how close Olmert was to reaching a two-state settlement and blames the Obama admin for not building on it: “The Mideast deal that could have been” http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-mideast-deal-that-could-have-been/2011/10/25/gIQAxaREKM_st ory.html

The family seems to have risen in significance as its importance has declined.
I’ll mention to Mr Oz, too, that if he has had no experience typing, if he tries it he will all of a sudden find he no longer knows how to spell and frequently loses his train of thought.

susanspring  10/28/2011 01:22 PM Report

What is with this guy! “There is either existence or extinction” (for Israel)….has he never heard of compromise? Co-operation? I’ve heard that there is a huge range of opinion in the politics of Israel…I now that many Israelis are open to a shared Jerusalem, and peace… it’s unfortunate when someone who is “educated” is so blind to the possibilities for change.

JohnGelles  10/28/2011 01:56 PM Report

Susan~
Amos Oz is an Israeli peacemaker — his middle name is “Compromise”.
Please read from Wikipedia an undisputed account of this fact.
http://www.ustaxreform.us/.amos-oz.htm

There is not one shred of evidence to the contrary. Amos Oz speaks for YOU and for ME.
Please feel free to reply.

JohnGelles  10/28/2011 02:17 PM Report

My favorite author on Jewish life and customs is Isaac Singer. I can read anything he writes and feel at home. He won the Nobel prize for literature for America — his adoptive home. He was from Poland — but arrived in America before WW II.

Amos Oz I should have read but did not yet. That is my mistake not his.

I know in my gut he is right about peace and and the current choices in the Middle East.
If Jews and Christian Zionists are driven out of Israel by misfortune in the future, a fate that does not seem possible at the moment, I hope they all come to America.

We Christians and Jews need each other.

Although the Jews need Israel, and the Middle East needs Jews, it is possible needs will not determine history. None of this loss of Israel is attractive — but Jews in other nations around the world might have to lose Israel to a nuclear armed enemy willing to kill innocent Jewish children.

This does not mean that Palestine and Israel cannot draw close together like America and Canada. They can. They will. And Amos Oz will be one of many reasons for such outcome.

czrska  10/28/2011 07:35 PM Report

I would have never met Mr. Amas Oz if not your program. I am in love with this man’s logic and perspective on life. I am sragoling every day to understand who I am , why my life is what it is, why , why ,why…. Your programs make me stronger,more aware, and informed. Thank you so much for your contribution to inteligence of the world

ChongSunWah  10/28/2011 10:02 PM Report

Dear Citizens of the World,

I hope to get your support for this Petition for a Palestinian State
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html#sign

The success of the “Arab Spring” tells us that a “Global Spring” is not impossible to achieve and it can begin with nothing more than a click of your mouse supporting our petition. The Palestinian people need our support now more than ever for a “World Spring” to finally achieve a homeland for their people.

On behalf of the Palestinian people I thank you all very much for your support. Please spread the word.

Love, light, peace, harmony and unity,
Sunflower Chong

Founder of www.worldharmonyday.com
NB: How it all started – http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11912
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/observer-editorial-palestine-statehood
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From: Adam & Beate <otherisr@actcom.co.il>
To: Sunflower Chong <sunflower_chong@yahoo.com>; Sunflower Chong <sunflower_chong@yahoo.com>
Cc: 1453ak@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: Call for Support for a Palestinian State – Online Petition

Dear Friend

As an Israeli peace activist, I wholeheartedly support your initiative. A Palestinian state is not only good for Palestinians – it is also good for Israelis. With a Palestinian state the Palestinians will be free of the
occupation – but also the Israelis will be free of being occupiers and oppressors, and will at last have the chance to live in peace.

all the best

Adam Keller
Spokesperson
Gush Shalom (Israeli peace Bloc)

JohnGelles  10/29/2011 07:54 AM Report

The Palestinian State appears to be nearly open for business. Amos Oz has long ago been an Israeli who wanted Palestine to succeed.

The purpose of helping the new state to be admitted to the UN as a fully sovereign state is to advance the cause for peace not war in the Middle East.

Although peace is not always possible, and sovereign states do go to war, I hope we can achieve peace and admission of Palestine into the UN — both at the same time.

Let us promise each other to do our best for peace in the Middle East. After all, war there threatens peace beyond that region. War is hell and the less there is the better.

“Occupation” is a critical problem — and it can only be solved by freedom and peace for Palestine and Israel. Millions want to see that solution. Others may want no solution or a solution based more on war than peace. This seems to be a tragic possibility.

beenthere2460  10/29/2011 12:14 PM Report

Mr. Oz, your honesty and pragmatism make you remarkable.

It is not that Jews in Israel and Palestinians are exhausted, but the rest of the world as well. And is incomprehensible because aren’t Jews and Arabs semitic peoples after all? Quite a family feud it has been, and over something that should be shared and not claimed. But human fervor and political desires deemed that prospect negligible long time ago. There will be a great sigh of relief when the struggle is finally over.

We all know that history and religious significance make that land sacred for many, whether Jewish, Christian or Muslim, all having a common lineage in theological terms.

Civility and common sense while facing the inevitable have a place in this planet after all, even when compromising on the dearest of the dearest.

ShalomFreedman  10/29/2011 04:47 PM Report

Oz is tremendously impressive but he is not always right. It is odd that he sights as his best book one that is largely unreadable, when it is clear that his memoir ‘A Tale of Love and Darkness’ is a very great masterpiece indeed.

On the Politics he is a bit unfair to his own Israeli side and a bit generous to the Palestinians. He understands rightly that the great majority of Israelis want Peace and are willing to sacrifice Peace, but I do not know what he basis his belief that the Palestinian Arabs share this desire for Peace. He also forgets to note what he certainly well knows that Israel’s security problems do not begin and end with the Palestinians, but unfortunately extend to a good part of the Arab and Islamic worlds.

Oz has as his name implies great strength especially considering his age. He has an ability to articulate his ideas in a pithy, and often humorous way. His love of the Hebrew language and his great mastery in writing it have been evident throughout his long writing career.

But perhaps his imagining literary characters, something he does so well, extend to his imagining and ascribing feelings to ‘political figures’ who do not have those feelings.

I would again however say that in speaking about Literature he is not simply impressive, he is also inspiring.

ChongSunWah  10/29/2011 10:41 PM Report

HAMAS GOT PROBLEM SO DOES THE JEWISH TALMUD

http://www.rense.com/general21/tal.htm

Quotes ‘With Attitude’ From The Jewish Talmud
Commentary By Don Talbot
dontal2001@yahoo.com.au
4-3-2

Note – We have received several similar posts with Talmudic quotes during the current MidEast crisis. We post this as a point of information and follow it with a formal rebuttal.

Dear Mr Rense,

Please find below an article regarding quotes and comments on the Jewish holy book – The Talmud. With the recent dangerous developments in the Middle East, I feel it is essential that one looks at what drives some Jews to think and behave as they do, and also where this mind set has its origins. I do hope you find this article suitable for posting on your extraordinary website.

Yours truly,
Don Talbot

QUOTES ‘WITH ATTITUDE’ FROM JEWISH TALMUD
In case you don’t know anything about this holy of holy manuscript, its history, and what can be found within in it, keep reading.

It is said Jewish Scribes received the Talmud partly as a collection of traditions given to them from Moses in oral form.

This very brief study and its authenticated references are based on the Jewish-authorized Babylonian Talmud.
Presented herein is irrefutable documentation in the hope of helping liberate all people, including Jewish people, from the corrosive delusions and racism of this Talmudic hate literature, which is the manual of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews the world over.

The implementation by Jewish supremacists of Talmudic hate literature has caused untold suffering throughout history and now, in occupied Palestine, it is used as a justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians. The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Where a Jew Should Do Evil

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite…the payment is to be in full.

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned.

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile.

WAIT…THERE’S MORE –

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: “Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.”

What Jewish Scholars Are Saying:

Rabbi Meir Kahane, told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are “dogs” is derived “from the Talmud.” (CBS 60 Minutes, “Kahane”).

University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein’s philosophy: “They believe it’s God’s will that they commit violence against goyim,” a Hebrew term for non-Jews. (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, “We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing.” (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).

Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

ENTER THE US GOVERNMENT.

U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts: “Our” government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the establishment of Talmudic “courts of justice” to be administered by disciples of Shneur Zalman’s Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.

For more information regarding any of the above (from where much of this information was obtained) see: http://www.hoffman-info.com/talmudtruth.html

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Response to ‘QUOTES FROM THE TALMUD’ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/qts.html
Also known as “Non-Jews as seen in the Jewish Talmud” and “Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud”

CLAIM “The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud…” “Babylonian Talmud”, published by the Boston Talmud Society, p. XII

The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish peoples, as “Gentiles”, “Goyim”. Let’s see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority, i.e. those who are not part of Jahve’s “Chosen People”:

RESPONSE It is true that modern Judaism derives most of its teachings from the Talmud, but what anti-Semites claim about the Talmud is quite different from the truth. David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)
CLAIM “The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts.” Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

RESPONSE (1) This represents a lack of knowledge of Hebrew at a most fundamental level. Here, the anti-Semites claim that Adam means human but it really means man. “Yetsoor” is the Hebrew word for human. Jews are referred to by the singular form of man, Adam, whilst non-Jews are referred to by the plural form of man, or anasheem. Both forms of the word mean human, but one is single, the other is plural. The reason that Jews are referred to in the singular is that if one Jew does something bad, or is alleged to have, all Jews are blamed for it. So, for the wrongdoing or alleged wrongdoing of one, all suffer. In the case of non-Jews, only individuals suffer, not all of the non-Jews. So that is why Jews are referred to as a single person and non-Jews are referred to in the plural. David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

RESPONSE (2) (Also, see other responses elswhere.) Apparently a deliberate mistranslation. The passage deals with the technical rules of corpse-impurity which, according to the author of this text, apply to Jews and not to gentiles. In this connection Ezekiel 34:31 is cited: “And ye My sheep [referring to Israel], the sheep of My pasture, are _men [Hebrew: “adam”]_, and I am your God, saith the Lord God.” From a careful midrashic reading of this Biblical verse, Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai deduced “Only “ye” [i.e., Israel, not other nations] are designated “adam,” in the sense that only Jewish corpses and graves generate impurity according to Numbers 19:14: “This is the law: when a _man [‘adam’]_ dieth in a tent, every one that cometh into the tent…shall be unclean seven days…” The passage is legal and exegetical, not theological. If anything, it seems to put Jews on a lower footing than non-Jews. Typically, the words “but beasts” were added on by whoever put this list together. They do not appear in the original. Correspondent of catamont@concentric.net (Sara Salzman) catamont-2305980759150001@ts003d13.den-co.concentric.net

CLAIM “The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the dog more than the non-Jew.” Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

RESPONSE The reference cited is does not exist, therefore the “quote” is forgery. Also “Akum” specifically means idolater. It does not refer to non-Jews in general. Additionally, the writing style is totally inconsistent with writings of this type which are extremely terse and abbreviated since they assume a great deal of prior knowledge. David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

CLAIM “Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form.” Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

RESPONSE (1) I was unable to check this reference in my extensive Judaica library. The book “Midrash Talpiyyot” is appparently an obscure eighteenth-century Kabbalistic work that is little known and carries no authority whatsoever. Even if the citation were correct (which seems doubtful in light of the other examples on this list, and the fact that Jews never employ the designation “Jehovah”), it is hard to imagine what could be proven from it about Judaism or the Talmud. From Usenet message catamont-2305980759150001@ts003d13.den-co.concentric.net

RESPONSE (2) Apart from anything else, the use of the term “Jehovah” should be an immediate indicator of a forgery since Jews don’t write this term in books. The actual book in question is not part of the Talmud but was written by a Turkish Jew called Elijah ben Solomon Abraham, ha-Koen in the eighteenth century. And it is unlikey that the quote exists given the other forgeries on this list. David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

CLAIM “A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.” Coschen hamischpat 405

RESPONSE The above quote is a wrong inference from a fiscal law in Shulchan Oruch, Choshen Mishpat 405.3, that relates to times when slavery was a standard and accepted practice across the world.

It states that if an ox gored a pregnant woman, and this resulted in the loss of the fetus, the owner does not have to pay for the loss of the fetus (medical expenses and other damages are discussed elsewhere). If an ox gored a pregnant non-Jewish slave-woman, the owner of the ox has to pay for the loss of the fetus to the owner of the slave-woman (because the owner would have had another slave to work for him had the woman given birth). The same applies if the ox gored a pregnant cow, or a sheep, because had the animal given birth, the owner would have had an extra one. The law is clearly hinged on the rights of the owner, and does not compare non-Jews and animals in any way. It is purely legal, and does not have any philosophical or social implications. I.I.

CLAIM “The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs.” Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

RESPONSE The above quote does not exist in the source. The reference to page 12b in Yalkut Reuveini is meaningless, as the pages are numbered individually, not having “a” and “b” parts.

Yalkut does quote from Shnei Luchot Habrit (in Sefer Dovor Shebikdusho, Os Alef), that the souls of two ancient nations (Amoni and Moavi that do not exist now), come from “the spirit of impurity”, but the same goes for the soul of a bastard (mamzer) of Jewish origin. I.I.

CLAIM “Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.” Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

RESPONSE A complete fabrication. The reference to p.250 b is meaningless (unless “b” stands for “column 2”), as each page is individually numbered. There is no mention of any comparison of Jews to non-Jews on page 250. I.I.

CLAIM “If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.” Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

RESPONSE This appears to be a forgery. Joe Slater

CLAIM “If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: “God will replace ‘your loss’, just as if one of his oxen or asses had died”.” Jore dea 377, 1

RESPONSE The Mishna from which this law is derived speaks about a specific formula [in] Hebrew “Hamokom menachem eschem” that is said to somebody whose close relative died within [the] last 7 days, it does not mean regular words of consolation. A question is asked by the commentators: the above formula is said [by] the grieving person only for a close relative, and not even for a distant relative or a regular Jew, so why do we have to be told that it’s not said for a servant? Several answers are given: either the personal servant is so close to his master, that he is considered by the master as his son, or because the servant was his property the master considered him part of his body so to speak. So why not say the above formula? The reason given is that people who don’t know the master might hear and think that the slave was completely Jewish and part of master’s family, which might lead to confusion. Actually, the same Mishna mentions that R. Gamaliel accepted this formula [of] condolence for his slave, because he respected the slave greatly for his Torah knowledge. I.I.

CLAIM “Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals.” Talmud Sanhedrin 74b

RESPONSE It does not say this or any such thing. David Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

CLAIM “It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile.” Sepher ikkarim III c 25

RESPONSE This is a misquotation. Rabbi Yosef Albo (the author) was asked by a Christian thinker about seeming injustice of the laws of Judaism dealing with charging interest on a loan. (According to Deuteronomy 23:20 and 23:21, a Jew is not allowed to lend with interest to another Jew, but may do so to a Gentile). R. Albo answers: The “Gentile” or “heathen” in the above passage refers to idolater, who refuses to keep seven Noahide laws. The laws are universal for all mankind: 1) prohibition of idolatry, 2) prohibition of blasphemy, 3) prohibition of murder, 4) prohibition of immorality and promiscuity, 5) prohibition of theft, 6) establishment of judicial system, 7) prohibition of cruelty to animals. Such a person, who does not respect other’s rights, places himself apart from human community and therefore can expect to be treated according to his own rules. He is a threat to everyone around and hence if somebody kills him, that person is not charged. On the contrary, even according to non-Jewish philosophers in those days (14th and 15th century, Spain), as R Albo brings, such a person should be killed. So it is regarding money matters: the prohibition of taking interest, that applies to everybody, including a non-Jew who keeps the Noahide laws (as R. Albo mentions a few sentences earlier), do not apply to him. I.I.

CLAIM “It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.” Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

RESPONSE This is from the Shulcan Aruch and applies to killing Jewish heretics. The following line in this passage is that this law does not apply to anyone non-Jewish and it is forbidden to harm any gentile. The Jewish heretics are people which are a potential cause of harm and trouble to the Jewish nation. The penalty is designed to demonstrate the severity with which heretical views were considered, rather than a practical penalty as such penalties were rarely imposed. E.S./David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

CLAIM “A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.” Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

RESPONSE It does not say this – this is a forgery. David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

CLAIM “Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.” Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

RESPONSE Midrash Bamidbar Raba 21: “[Numbers 23:11 regarding Phinehas who killed Zimri for fornicating with a Midianite woman] `Because he was zealous for his G-d and atoned for the children of Israel’ It says he atoned – did he bring a sacrifice? This teaches us that whoever spills the blood of the wicked is like someone who brings a sacrifice.” Joe Slater
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Relevance to Palestine, and the reason why the land was stolen by dwellers of fiction (Jews).

The Jews follow the Talmud. Similar to the Sharia, in which they promote hate to all Gentiles.

The Torah (Old Testament) claims that Jews are God’s chosen people. Of course the Torah (Old Testament) would say this, cause it is a bias fictional book written by Jews from thousand of years ago. Only a religion of hate (Judaism), would teach that its own people are above everyone, and everything else.

The Jews are responsible for their own fate, such as the Holocaust. They create problems wherever they live, with their greedy mentality. Eventually people become frustrated, and try to irradicate the villains of society, and use harsh tactics against the Jews, by trying to literally kill them off.

I don’t agree with the Holocaust, I think it was terrible, however, the Jews need to stop causing trouble, however, it seems like they always tend to repeat history, over, and over. They’ve already been expelled, and lost their home in Europe, their losing it in the Middle East, where do they move next? The Orient? South America? Maybe Mars?

In the end, the Jews really ONLY hurt themselves, as the only thing they are good at is creating enemies.

Quotes from the Talmud…
http://www.rense.com/general21/tal.htm

1. If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. –Moed Kattan 17a

2. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God. –Sanhedrin 58b

3. A Jew need not pay a Gentile (“Cuthean”) the wages owed
him for work. –Sanhedrin 57a

4. If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned.
-Baba Mezia 24a also in Baba Kamma 113b

5. When a Jew murders a Gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep. –Sanhedrin 57a

6. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel”. –Baba Kamma 37b

7. All Gentile children are animals. –Yebamoth 98a

8. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. –Abodah Zarah 36b

9. Only Jews are human (“Only ye are designated men”).–Baba Kattan 114a-114b

10. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile. –Baba Kamma 113a

11. Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, “We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing.” -NY Times, June 6, 1989

12. Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” -NY Daily News, Feb 28, 1994

ShalomFreedman  10/30/2011 02:17 AM Report

The monitoring of the ‘Charlie Rose’ website comments has long been in order. An illustration to this is the anti- Semitic presentation below this one. It has nothing really to do with the specific interview given. The ‘monitor’ should as I understand it responsibly screen out comments that are simply windbag hate- preaching with no real relevance to the specific matter at hand.

beenthere2460  10/30/2011 11:26 AM Report

Dear Chong:

Well, you know what it has been said about religions, they are a great tool in manipulating people to gain power and influence. And there is plenty of dirty laundry on many of them. Judaism is no exception.
I may go to hell, but there is no way I can fully trust any of them–AT ALL!!!
FINITO

ChongSunWah  10/30/2011 12:36 PM Report

More recently, the Palestinian Authority (PA) insisted that in order for the negotiations to achieve their goal, both sides must accept two basic and essential principles, namely, the terms of reference for the negotiations and a time frame. The PA insisted that the terms of reference must be the pertinent UN resolutions on the question of Palestine, and a set timetable. Israel did not only refuse to do that, it set seven pre-conditions:

1. No right of return for Palestinian refugees.
2. Jerusalem is not negotiable.
3. No return to the 1967 borders.
4. No stopping of settlement building.
5. The recognition of Israel as a Jewish state.
6. Keeping the Israeli army along the Jordan Valley.
7. A demilitarized Palestinian state.

The United States could not provide a solution to this deadlock. President Obama tried but failed to impress on Israel to halt settlement building while the negotiations went on. In fact, the Israeli government refused to comply, and President Obama embarrassingly had to back down.

So it has become abundantly clear that Israel is doing everything possible to block the establishment of a Palestinian state, and is unilaterally creating a one-state reality.

Theoretically, this can point to one of two directions, either a racist, apartheid-like state which is already in the making, or a state with full democracy for all citizens that can possibly emerge.

Since we know where Israel stands on “democracy for all,” we believe that the movement is surely towards a racist state. At the same time, we know that Israel does not want to rule or govern millions of Palestinians, so it is easy to conclude that Israel’s policy is to get rid of the Palestinians. Its strategy is becoming clearer by the day. It wants to drag, stall, and prevaricate in order to devour more and more Palestinian land. As it devours, it builds and expands the settlements and constructs its separation wall in order to include what it wants and to exclude what it “wishes” to leave for the Palestinians. When it completes its scheme, what is left of the West Bank will be less than 10% of historic Palestine, instead of the 22% which originally comprised the West Bank including East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip. (And instead of over 45% that was allocated by the UN Partition Plan of 1947) The Palestinians would be confined to a small area that is not contiguous and viable but fragmented and impossible. As far as Israel is concerned if the Palestinians then want to call it a state, so be it.

Sabeel has always maintained that the ideal solution for the resolution of the conflict is the establishment of ONE civil democratic state for all the inhabitants of the area of mandated Palestine – Palestinians and Israelis, Jews, Christians, and Muslims. But for many reasons including pragmatic considerations, UN resolution for the two-state solution, and especially for the sake of peace and security for all, Sabeel has stood for and promoted the two-state solution which we consider the historic and generous offer of the Palestinians for a permanent peace. The Palestinian state, therefore, must include all the 1967 occupied lands with East Jerusalem as its capital, and no more compromises or concessions or swaps of land should be asked of the Palestinians.

Other options that could be considered are: a bi-national state in Palestine-Israel or a confederation or federation of states in the region.

Deir Yassin Remembered

As a Holocaust Survivor, AIPAC Doesn’t Speak for Me
By Hedy Epstein

AlterNet
April 27, 2011

At the end of one of my first journeys to the Israeli-occupied West Bank in 2004, I endured a shocking experience at Ben-Gurion Airport. I never imagined that Israeli security forces would abuse a 79-year-old Holocaust survivor, but they held me for five hours and strip-searched and cavity-searched every part of my naked body. The only shame these security officials expressed was to turn their badges around so that their names were invisible.

The only conceivable purpose for this gross violation of my bodily integrity was to humiliate and terrify me. But it had just the opposite effect. It made me more determined to speak out against abuses by the Israeli government and military.

Yet my own experience, unpleasant as it was, is nothing compared to the indignities and abuses heaped on Palestinians year after year. Israel’s occupation of the West Bank is based not on equal rights and fair play, but on what Human Rights Watch has termed a “two-tier” legal system – in other words, apartheid, with one set of laws for Jews and a harsh, oppressive set of laws for Palestinians.

This, however, is the legal system and security state AIPAC (The American Israel Public Affairs Committee) will defend from May 22-24 at its annual conference. And, despite this grim reality, members of Congress will converge to hail AIPAC and Israel. The Palestinians’ lack of freedom is bound to be obscured at the AIPAC conference with its obsessive focus on security and shunting aside of anything to do with upholding fundamental Palestinian rights.

Several years ago near Der Beilut in the West Bank, I saw the Israeli police turn a water cannon on our nonviolent protest. As it happened, I recalled Birmingham, Alabama in 1963 and wondered why an ostensibly democratic society responded to peaceable assembly by trying, literally, to drown out the voice of our protest.

In Mas’ha, also in the occupied West Bank, I joined a demonstration against the wall Israel has built, usually inside the West Bank and occasionally towering to 25 feet in height. I saw a red sign warning ominously of “mortal danger” to any who dared to cross in an area where it ran as a fence. I saw Israeli soldiers aiming at unarmed Israelis, Palestinians and international protesters. I also saw blood pouring out of Gil Na’amati, a young Israeli whose first public act after completing his mandatory military service was to protest against the wall. I saw shrapnel lodged in the leg of Anne Farina, one of my traveling companions from St. Louis. And I thought of Kent State and Jackson State, where National Guardsmen opened fire in 1970 on protesters against the Vietnam War.

So as AIPAC meets and members of Congress cheer, I hold these images of Israel in my mind and fear AIPAC’s ability to move US policy in dangerous directions. AIPAC does a disservice to the Palestinians, the Israelis and the American people. It helps to keep the Middle East in a perpetual state of war and this year will be no different from last year as it keeps up a steady drumbeat calling for war against Iran.

AIPAC pretends to speak for all Jews, but it certainly does not speak for me or other members of the Jewish community in this country who are committed to equal rights for all and are aware that American interventionism is likely to bring further disaster and chaos to the Middle East.

Israel, of course, would not be able to carry out its war crimes against civilians in Lebanon and Gaza without the United States – and our $3 billion in military aid – permitting it to do so. At 86 years old, I use every ounce of my energy to educate the American public about the need to stop supporting the abuses committed by the Israeli government and military against the Palestinian people. Sometimes there are people who try to shout me down and scream that I am a self-hating Jew, but most of the time the audience is receptive to hear from someone who survived the Holocaust and now works to free the Palestinians from Israeli oppression.

The vicious discrimination brought to bear against Palestinians in the occupied territories deserves no applause from members of Congress attending the AIPAC conference. Instead, they should raise basic questions with Israeli officials about decades of inferior rights endured by Palestinians both inside Israel and the occupied territories. As for me, I will be across the road at an alternative convention called Move Over AIPAC. To sign up and join me, visit www.MoveOverAIPAC.org.

Take action by attending Move Over AIPAC, a gathering in Washington DC from May 21-24, 2011, to expose AIPAC and build the vision for a new US foreign policy in the Middle East! More information can be found at www.MoveOverAIPAC.org.

Hedy Epstein is a Holocaust survivor, who writes and travels extensively to speak about social justice causes and Middle Eastern affairs.

ChongSunWah  10/30/2011 12:51 PM Report

The below statement from Sabeel

Sabeel Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center
Jerusalem
September 5, 2011

The Palestinian people are only asking for 22% instead of 45% that was promised by UN in 1947.

For the sake of peace for the future generations why can’t the Netanyahu government conclude the deal? Can the Jewish people rise up again and make Netanyahu comes to a compromise like they did for the return of Gilad Shalit?
If the Jewish people can do that then ALL LIVES WILL BE SAVE so Netanyahu should not be afraid he will end up like Rabin.

ShalomFreedman  10/30/2011 03:38 PM Report

I was thinking about my previous largely complimentary remarks about Amos Oz’ interview when I realized that I had avoided one major point that bothered me. Amos Oz continually spoke about the ‘lack of courage ‘ of our leaders, meaning Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. Amos Oz, however courageous he is in creating literary characters has so far as I know never held a position of responsibility in Israeli political life. Does he have any conception whatsoever of what it must be to be the Prime Minister of Israel?

The threats Israel’s faces are great and existential. They come from a Radical Islamic Iran striving for nuclear weapons, an Iran which has already proclaimed that Israel will no longer exist. There also are threats from Iranian satellite Hizbollah, and from Hamas. Both of these entities armed with thousands of missiles also deny the right of Israel to exist.

Another tremendous source of the threat is from the effort to delegitimize Israel. There is a global campaign to do this. This connects very much with the false Palestinian narrative which has become a staple of Western media. This has to do with the alleged ‘occupation’. No one in the West seems to remember that there has never been a Palestinian Arab state in the ‘West Bank’ that the disputed area was Jordanian territory in 1967 when the Jordanians attacked Israel. And that the area allegedly ‘occupied’ is, in fact, the heartland of historical Biblical Israel.

I would make one other point. There is a continual accusation of Prime Minister Netanyahu ( including from Amos Oz) for not making peace. But how can one make peace with those who call for one’s destruction? Anyone who knows what even the most moderate Palestinian leaders say to their own people know that they deny completely the Jewish historical connection to the land of Israel.

JohnGelles  10/30/2011 07:22 PM Report

Amos Oz, Benjamin Netanyahu, and I, all want peace for Israel and a new Palestinian State. I cannot prove this. But I believe it.

ChongSunWah wants the things he has asked for in this discussion.

It may be that there are irreconcilable differences between these to WANTS.

Hedy Epstein, a Jewish Holocaust survivor, wants Israeli treatment of Palestinians to improve.

….. She does not discuss past or current treatment of Jews by Iran, Palestine or say, Middle East Muslim Majority nations, where Jewish citizens (or former citizens) of these ME nations have no protection by Jewish soldiers and police.

I have always supported AIPAC. It may not be perfect — but it is good enough. The President’s speech there a few moths ago was perfect to my ear.

Shalom would moderate ChongSunWah to remove any hate-fomenting comment he might post. So would I. But if he is guilty of hate-mongering I have missed it. I confess I do not read him when he writes too much.

Amos Oz’ work is always a gem (in translation). ChongSunWah’ posts are a bore. And my own posts may be unfair. I would like the moderator we are missing and the transcripts too.

What I don’t want or like is the desire by some anti-Jewish People too see Islamists terrorists kill Jews and get away with it. AIPAC is the enemy of such terrorists and terrorist-fellow-travelers: which makes AIPAC my necessary friend.

ChongSunWah  10/31/2011 01:17 AM Report

Amos Oz, Benjamin Netanyahu, and I, all want peace for Israel and a new Palestinian State. I cannot prove this. But I believe it.

YES YOU CAN PROVE IT, very simple by signing the petition at http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html#sign

Not only that you get Mr Amos Oz and Benjamin Netanyahu to sign too to prove their sincerity. If that happen then I truly believe the Palestinian State will be a reality very soon. (while typing this line all my hair stand:)so happy)

I am sure after the Palestinian see it for themselves that Mr Netanyahu has signed this petition then I believe they will allow both parties to work out the details.

I am a real estate agent, I was showing an apartment to Mrs Klein not knowing she is Jewish and I asked her to support the petition she said,”Chong are you pro Palestinians?” I told her I am pro humanity because if ever the America government uses its veto power the consequences is enormous? Just imagine if ever the Arab league stand together by stopping oil shipping it will destabilize the whole world. Why should the Israelis and Palestinians conflict cause havoc to the world and thus bring lot of pain, misery and suffering to the world at large.

We are now living in a ticking time-bomb while my Jewish friend Perry in New York said we are living in an interesting time. We know the world leaders are not ready or not in the position to handle such complex issue at presence especially when they got to fix the Euro problem.

Why the Israel government carry this FEAR constantly for all their life and pass it down to the next generations. Instead why don’t they open their heart for greater humanity to be their new identity. If you give love you don’t need to fear cause love will be rewarded with more LOVE:)

For once please give back to the American people who have stand by Israel through thick and thin but this time round America cannot stand by Israel instead Israel got to support America by concluding the deal with the Palestinian people because the fall of America is the demise of Israel and the world.

Allow America to shine don’t bring down the hand that feed you due to selfish reason because that is not fair to the American people.

TO LOVE GOD IS TO STRIVE FOR GREATER HUMANITY.

This was taught to us by my teacher when we were in secondary school.

ChongSunWah  10/31/2011 01:32 AM Report

What I don’t want or like is the desire by some anti-Jewish People too see Islamists terrorists kill Jews and get away with it. AIPAC is the enemy of such terrorists and terrorist-fellow-travelers: which makes AIPAC my necessary friend.

Early in the morning of April 9, 1948, commandos of the IRGUN (headed by MENACHEM BEGIN) and the STERN GANG attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents. The village lay outside of the area to be assigned by the United Nations to the Jewish State; it had a peaceful reputation. But it was located on high ground in the corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Deir Yassin was slated for occupation under Plan Dalet and the mainstream Jewish defense force, the Haganah, authorized the irregular terrorist forces of the Irgun and the Stern Gang to perform the takeover.

In all over 100 men, women, and children were systematically murdered. Fifty-three orphaned children were literally dumped along the wall of the Old City, where they were found by Miss Hind Husseini and brought behind the American Colony Hotel to her home, which was to become the Dar El-Tifl El-Arabi orphanage.

Part of the struggle for self-determination by Palestinians has been to tell the truth about Palestinians as victims of Zionism. For too long their history has been denied, and this denial has only served to further oppress and deliberately dehumanize Palestinians in Israel, inside the occupied territories, and outside in their diaspora.
Some progress has been made. Westerners now realize that Palestinians, as a people, do exist. And they have come to acknowledge that during the creation of the state of Israel, thousands of Palestinians were killed and over 700,000 were driven or frightened from their homes and lands on which they had lived for centuries.

Deir Yassin Remembered seeks similar progress on behalf of the victims of the Deir Yassin Massacre .

ChongSunWah  10/31/2011 01:45 AM Report

ShalomFreedman 10/30/2011 03:38 PM

I would make one other point. There is continual accusation of Prime Minister Netanyahu ( including from Amos Oz) for not making peace. But how can one make peace with those who call for one’s destruction? Anyone who knows what even the most moderate Palestinian leaders say to their own people knows that they deny completely the Jewish historical connection to the land of Israel.

When you said destruction do you mean eradication?

Hamas does not call for eradication of Jewish people but the eradication of the state of Israel to make way for a federation of Arabs and Jews, Palestinians, Israelis, Christians and Muslims.

It is absolutely haram for a Muslim to say eradication. There is a whole chapter in the Quran called Bani Israel which mentions that God once favoured the Jewish people because they were at that time good and righteous. The Prophet himself married a Jewess. Jews are called People of the Book.

I dont support Hamas but dont wrongly quote these traumatised people who have lost their homeland

beenthere2460  10/31/2011 05:46 PM Report

In all honesty people…

I think Mr. N consulted his Kabbalah advisor and decided to postpone the signing until 2012, which prophetically and apocalyptically matches his innermost intentions-that is, to synchronize the signing with the time of the meteor hitting the Earth.

He plans to use a fountain pen with an empty cartridge as a delay tactic. Therefore, when the meteor strikes the planet, at that same second, he runs out of luck with his pen, thus never actually signing the agreement. Very sneaky, I would say.

We all go back to becoming star matter once again, and is a fresh new for us in our galaxy.

End of story.

Punto Final.

ChongSunWah  11/01/2011 04:04 AM Report

Beenthere2460 you are so funny:)

In the East we just cannot believe how the Israel government managed to merry go round in this peace agreement and get away with it that the Palestinians are stalling it.

Since Oslo 1993 the world had been waiting and now 2011 coming to 2012 the Palestinians cannot wait anymore especially after witnessing the Arab Spring success. What is most unbelievable is the insane act cause by Israel government to the people in GAZA is justifiably and the world can only watch and cry in pain and now while I am typing 2 or 4 Palestinians already dead in GAZA.

Maybe after reading the below article you will agree with them that the Jewish people are not sincere in giving Palestinians a homeland. If they are get them all who said that they are pro to a Palestinian State to sign the petition and prove it to the world their sincerity!

The Role of Jews in the Palestinian Solidarity Movement
By Henry Herskovitz and Michelle J. Kinnucan
CounterPunch
April 26, 2011

After Malcolm X returned from his epiphanic trip to Mecca, he was asked if White people could join his Organization of Afro-American Unity. He was very clear in his response:

They can’t join us. I have these very deep feelings that white people who want to join black organizations are really just taking the escapist way to salve their consciences. By visibly hovering near us, they are “proving” that they are ‘with us’. But the hard truth is this isn’t helping to solve America’s racist problem. The Negroes aren’t the racists. Where the really sincere white people have got to do their ‘proving’ of themselves is not among the black victims, but out there on the battle lines of where America’s racism really is – and that’s in their own home communities.” The Autobiography of Malcolm X, pp 383-384, emphasis in original.

He added that by working separately, Whites and Blacks would form a successful collective. “Working separately, the sincere white people and the sincere black people actually will be working together.”

The words of this fighter for justice are valid 46 years later in another context: Defining the role of Jews in the Palestine solidarity movement. The lesson is that sincere Jews should not play leading roles in the Palestinian solidarity movement, but should instead expose and challenge the racism that exists in their own Jewish communities. So what are Jewish-led and Jewish-identified groups and leaders doing? Certainly, they criticize atrocities committed by Israel in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, but are they clearly defining their positions? Do they oppose Jewish supremacism, as some opposed White supremacism in South Africa during the 1980s? Which of the higher profile Jewish-led and Jewish-identified groups are demanding an end to a Jewish state and full and immediate return for displaced Palestinians and their descendents?

With the possible exception of the Neturei Karta rabbis, they don’t exist. Following Malcolm X, Jews have predictably ingratiated themselves into some Palestinian organizations, have created “dialogue” groups between Jews and Palestinians (where the elephant of who’s oppressing whom is conveniently ignored), have spoken clearly against Christian Zionism, but where are their voices challenging Judaic Zionism? After all, it’s “their own home community”.

Why is it that our group, Jewish Witnesses for Peace and Friends, standing in front of an avowedly Zionist synagogue in Ann Arbor, Michigan for over seven years, remains the only Jewish-founded and Jewish-led group that openly and explicitly challenges Jewish power, here and in Palestine? Why is there a list of over forty Jewish peace activists who refuse to stand with us and against the racism so deeply rooted in their own community? What are they in the game for?

Proportionately and in dollars spent, votes coerced, degree of dedication and organization, no other community supports Israel more strongly than the Jewish community. Perhaps a case might be made that Christian Zionists are more numerous, but they follow the lead of Jewish Zionists; strong Jewish-led anti-Zionist campaigns focused on the Jewish community would help empower more Christians to challenge Christian Zionism. Also, Christian Zionists are dwarfed by the political footprint of the Jewish organizations comprising the “Israel Lobby”. In short, the Jewish community’s worthiness and appropriateness as a target for criticism and concerted anti-Zionist organizing is as clear as it is confounding that more Jews don’t take on this vital task.

This writer joined the steering committee of a local peace group shortly after the attacks of 9/11 and was continuously frustrated that attempts to place Palestine on the table for discussion and action were swept off. This in spite of the fact that US support for Israel was one of three major reasons the attacks were purportedly launched. The Jewish leaders of this peace group could not countenance harsh criticisms of Israel, and when membership overwhelmingly (78 per cent in favor) supported a resolution calling for an end to military aid, the leadership eventually terminated the membership and reorganized Michigan Peaceworks as a Director-led 501(c)(3) organization.

Personal experiences like the above suggest a pattern: Jews become peace activists, but when the realization strikes that they must choose between the mutually exclusive constructs of a Jewish state and a just peace, these activists move into gate-keeper mode. Like Monty Python’s Black Knight, they cry “None shall pass” to those of us who call for the peaceful dismantlement of the Jewish state. Our voices are marginalized, and by the very same folks who should be joining us.

After all, who better than Jewish activists to challenge the Jewish community? Personal discussions with Christian activists indicate that all-too-many are terrified of being labeled an “anti-Semite”. Terrified to the point of inaction, at best. They look to Charles Freeman, Arun Gandhi, Helen Thomas, and Will Smith as examples of what could happen to them should they speak truthfully.

This sets the stage for true peace activism from Jews in the movement: The racist nature of the Jewish state is fostered in local, American Jewish communities. As an example, the rabbi at Beth Israel Congregation, where we protest every Saturday, confirmed in the local newspaper that his congregation is unabashedly Zionist: “there is one general statement which I can make on behalf of the congregation – Beth Israel Congregation affirms without any hesitation or equivocation the legitimacy of the existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish state”. According to its website, Beth Israel proudly stood with Israel as it battered Lebanon in 2006. Children from Beth Israel are taken on trips to Israel where they are posed with armed IDF soldiers and in front of military vehicles. In short, Zionist indoctrination and support for Israel are staples in the religious life of that congregation.

The unwillingness of many Jewish activists and organizations to confront the local roots of violent Jewish supremacism foisted upon the indigenous people of Palestine is shocking and inexcusable. It would be clear to Malcolm X, were he to return to us today. He would most likely have harsh words to Jewish peace activists who do not hold their own community accountable for the support they give the Jewish state, much like he had for Whites who refused to expose the racism in the White community.

The solution to Jewish supremacism in Palestine is simple: End it. Demand of Jews in the peace movement that they stop yelling only about a 1967 “occupation”, and start condemning the creation and maintenance of a Jewish supremacist state imposed by force upon an unwilling and incredibly resilient native population in 1948. This was the culmination of a Jewish movement started decades earlier. Taking the cause of justice and peace back to the Jewish community is the most valid path forward for Jews supporting an end to the racism both in Palestine and in their own community.

Henry Herskovitz is a retired Mechanical Engineer, and became a peace activist after witnessing the effects of US-led sanctions against Iraq in 2000. He founded Jewish Witnesses for Peace and Friends, a group in Ann Arbor that has held non-violent vigils at Beth Israel Congregation for over seven years. He’s worked with the International Solidarity Movement as well as the Michigan Peace Team in Palestine. Contact: http://www.facebook.com/people/Henry-Herskovitz/627467402

[Michelle J. Kinnucan’s writing has previously appeared in CommonDreams.org, Palestine Chronicle, Arab American News, Electronic Intifada, Veterans Today and elsewhere. Her 2004 investigative report on the Global Intelligence Working Group was featured in Censored 2005: The Top 25 Censored Stories (Seven Stories Pr., 2004) and she contributed a chapter to Finding the Force of the Star Wars Franchise (Peter Lang, 2006).]

beenthere2460  11/02/2011 09:36 AM Report

Dear Chong:

You have very valid points, I have to agree. And I know the Israelis feel pushed to the limit in this situation, after all, this is not an easy path down in the woods. But remember, we have to deal with the idea that Jews “think”

–THEY ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE–

I don’t know who told them that to begin with. It must be somewhere in their Talmudic Secret Code of Conduct, and I am sure it was not Moses, even when they were in the desert, and no one else was around.

Remember they have a slight psychological deviation, so watch out, they tend to be delusional in the first place.
No room for common sense. They have to treat their ailment first.

I just wish common sense would come in pill form, easy to swallow, quick acting, long lasting…What joy would that bring to the world!!!

ChongSunWah  11/03/2011 01:24 AM Report

JohnGelles 10/30/2011 07:22 PM
Amos Oz, Benjamin Netanyahu, and I, all want peace for Israel and a new Palestinian State. I cannot prove this. But I believe it.

Dear JohnGelles if you believe the Palestinian people should have a homeland why have I not see your signature at
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html#sign

After reading the article below by AGENCE FRANCE_PRESSE, NEW YORK TIMES, do you still believe Netanyahu is sincere to give Palestinian people a homeland?

Israeli punishment over Unesco vote riles Palestinians

JERUSELEM : Palestinian leaders reacted angrily after Israel said it would build 2,000 settler homes and freeze the transfer of Palestinian tax funds to punish them for joining Unesco.

Israel’s announcement came a day after Palestinian, previously enjoying observer status, was granted full membership of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Unesco) in a vote.
The Israelis move on Tuesday has touched upon one of the rawest nerves in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: the Palestinians’ demand of a complete halt in settlement construction as a condition for resuming long-stalled peace negotiations.

“These measures were agreed…as punishment after the vote at Unesco,” a senior Israeli government official told Agence France-Presse on condition of anonymity. “It was also decided to temporarily freeze the transfer of funds to the Palestinian Authority,” he added.

Every month, Israel transfers to the Palestinian Authority tens of millions of dollars fin custom duties levied on goods destined for Palestinian markets that transit through Israeli ports. The money constitutes a large percentage of the Palestinian budget. Israel often freezes the transfer of funds as a punitive measure in response to diplomatic or political developments viewed as harmful.

A statement from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamain Netanyahu’s office said the decisions were taken during a “first discussion” of the Unesco issue. Further steps would be considered at the next meeting of the Forum of Eight senior ministers.

The Palestine’s presidential spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeina reacted angrily. He called on the Middle East Quartet and the United States administration to “put an end to this recklessness” which he warned would have ‘negative consequences” for the whole region.

“The Israeli decision to speed up settlement construction with the construction of 2,000 new housing units is an Israeli decision to accelerate the destruction of the peace process,” he told AFP.
“And the freezing of Funds is stealing money from the Palestinian people.”
Israel is also reportedly considering withdrawing the special permits granted to move between the West Bank and Israel with relative ease.

IF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IS SINCERE IN GIVING THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE A HOMELAND PLEASE STOP DEMEANING THEIR DIGNITY!

In 1948 UN promised to give the Palestinian people 45% of the land. In 1993 Oslo agreement Rabin promised 22% and now under Netanyahu only 10% and yet the Palestinians cannot rule like a sovereign state. So what next, more new settlements I suppose and it is justified because the Palestinian people did not OBEY THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD!

The Israeli came and stole the Palestinian land through United Nation support and now they behave like the landlord and only if they like it or when they are ready then they are willing to give them a small piece and yet after 63 years they still cannot make up their mind when they will give them this small piece of homeland.

How many more death do the Israeli government hope to achieve before they too say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH or NEVER ENOUGH UNTIL THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT COULD WIPE OUT THE PALESTINIANS FROM THIS UNIVERSE COMPLETELY!

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/
Statistics Last Updated: October 25, 2011

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed
September 29, 2000 – Present

124 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,463 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)

Israelis and Palestinians Killed
September 29, 2000 – Present

1,084 Israelis and at least 6,430 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)

Israelis and Palestinians Injured
September 29, 2000 – Present

9,226 Israelis and 45,041 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information.)

Daily U.S. Military Aid to Israel and the PalestiniansFiscal Year 2011

During Fiscal Year 2011, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $8.2 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the Palestinians. (View Sources & More Information)

Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees

0 Israelis are being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,300 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Sources & More Information)

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 – Present

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,813 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Sources & More Information)

Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment Rates

The Israeli unemployment rate is 6.4%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 16.5% and 40% in Gaza. (View Sources & More Information)

Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land

Israel currently has 236 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Sources & More Information)

beenthere2460  11/03/2011 08:21 PM Report

Dear Chong:

I guess you have decided to “Occupy Charlie Rose” for the time being. I wish you plenty of luck with the issue.
Thank you for posting historical data, even the one from the Talmud-Babylonian version, it sure beats the Code of Hammurabi (another Babylonian gem) in ruthlessness.

I just find cruelty and uncivilized behavior towards others so disgusting and sinful that I don’t know how people can find it acceptable without any spiritual remorse. I believe in reincarnation, and what one fails to do in perfecting one’s soul in this lifetime, one will pay in later in a more miserable condition in a future life.

Perhaps we will see better days for coexistence. We are more alike than different, and there is no excuse to act like beasts towards each other when there is room for understanding.

A truly conscious mind seeks peace for himself and others, and the soul is grateful.

ChongSunWah  11/03/2011 10:02 PM Report

I DON’T WANT THE WORLD TO HATE THE JEWISH PEOPLE!

But the actions taken by the Israeli government recently is not helping but in fact making it worse for the people around the world to think good or highly of the Jewish people. NOW MORE AND MORE PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND HAVE A BAD OPINION OF THEM. SO HOW?

THEY SEEM TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER THEY LIKE OR PLEASES THEM. THEY HAD STOLE THE PALESTINIANS LAND AND NOW THEY WANT TO STEAL THEIR MONEY BY NOT TRANSFERRING THE FUNDS BECAUSE UNITED NATION GIVES THEM FULL MEMBERSHIP. If they are sincere in wanting to give them a homeland they should be happy for the Palestinian people when they got full membership, RIGHT!

When I was in primary 4 my teacher Ms Solomon told us the Palestinian people stole their land. When I asked another Singaporean teacher she said if Palestine is the Jewish land then why must they change the name from Palestine to Israel. Who is the real culprit?

beenthere2460  11/06/2011 12:23 AM Report

Chong:

After reading your posts, it amazes me the freedom you have in Singapore about discussing the Palestinian issue in grade school. We don’t have that freedom in the US. It is practically a taboo subject here. It is not talked about at all.

When I came to the US in 1973, we only discussed about the Jewish plight for a homeland, nothing about the Palestinians. In college, I read EXODUS, written by Leon Uris and I understood the Jewish cause. At the same time I asked myself, where are the Palestinians supposed to be? They do exist, and have been there for centuries, so what about them? I would hear about the Palestinian cause only from abroad and felt a sense of dismay at not being able to really say anything in the so called “Land of Freedom”.

We are in the 21st century now, Jewish paranoia and playing the victim card does not work any more. They already have their homeland, and it is time for the Palestinians to have a place of their own since Israel is not willing to treat them in a humane, just and civilized way. The Palestinians deserve their own home, just as Jews claimed their piece of the pie and got it.

Your teacher was right, you are right in stating the injustice. We are just waiting for them (Israelis) to make it a win-win situation for both sides.

Israel’s Prime Minister just needs to sign the agreement having the support of his own people. This is an act of conscience for the Israelis and nobody else. There are no villains if the intention is right. So why delay the inevitable, the obvious and equitable solution for the Palestinian people?

I still enjoy music by Gershwin, a Woody Allen film, a Chagall painting. They are all Jewish and they are all great. But why can’t they prove their greatness when dealing with the ones suffering from inequality and injustice at their own hands?

If they are really such good people, they would embrace peace and not delay it any longer.

Actions speak louder than words. Is for them to prove it.

ChongSunWah  11/06/2011 01:41 AM Report

Beenthere2460 first have you signed the petition and rally your family and friends to support too?

Signing this petition is symbolic and more importantly to allow the Jewish people to show their sincerity instead of just opening their mouth constantly in declaring that they are sincere in wanting a homeland for the Palestinian people. If they are sincere show it by signing the online petition and it is not so difficult to do just a click of the mouse. Look right here we got Mr JohnGelles even speaking on behalf of Mr Amos Oz and Netanyahu that he believed they are sincere in wanting to give Palestinians a homeland and yet JohnGelles himself did not signed the petition. Why?

Coming back to what you said about freedom in Singapore far from it because when we spoke about politics my teacher will put her head outside the classroom and when nobody was out there then she continued to talk (at that times we believed Lee Kuan Yew got his own spies.) I was very curious as a child and I asked a lot of questions about life and the world. I am a black sheep of the family middle child of seven, not love maybe for this reason I asked many questions to help clear my doubts about life and people. WHY WAS I SO DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS I OFTEN WONDERED!

I am a HUMANIST who believe FAITH and KNOWLEDGE are required for a hopeful vision for the future.

Now my son said that I am getting more and more ridiculous (if you read the stuffs at http://dearmmlee.worpress.com you know what my son was saying.) My eldest brother just scolded me he said, “Who are you to ask for a Palestinian State on behalf of the Palestinian people even the American government could not do it?” He told me the Israeli government not interested at all to give the Palestinians a homeland because in their mind now is to BOMB IRAN and this they wanted to do it 26 years ago when they told US that it was not wise to allow Shah of Iran to acquire nuclear weapons. Now for the Israeli government to take this action to bomb Iran how are they going to justify it? Like George Bush when he bombed Iraq he said to preempt to save the world because of weapons of mass destruction! But where are the weapons of mass destruction instead my daughter Greta did a film called weapons of mass deception on WHD 2003!!

We don’t need to be rocket scientist to know that the Israeli government will do the same and said they got no choice for the sake of the Jewish people survival that they got to bomb Iran. I just can’t imagine this scenario and because of this, these couple of days I am very depressed. Why? Just flash back when George Bush wanted to bomb Iraq I was calling the Senators in America and Hillary Clinton assistance on the phone told me Mrs Clinton just left to meet up with George Bush and asked him not to bomb Iraq. Everyone went crazy at those confused and troubled times but still we cannot stop George Bush because all the Jewish hawks around him made sure he did not changed his mind. Please go read my pleading letters to George Bush the war monger because the world at this sad stage was his doing! http://www.worldharmonyday.com/news_letters_bush.php

Family and friends are so scared of me now because they are afraid to get into trouble if they supported the petition because Singapore government is Pro Israel. Fear rules the day as usual and Consciousness must be kept at bay. When I talk about the Israelis and Palestinians conflict they said “Oh this is politics we are not allow to talk politics.” When I was hosting World Harmony Day in 2003 during the Iraq war so many people were afraid to be near ME but not before!

From day one in my country we were not allowed to talk race, religions and politics because this were taboo subjects and still are in the minds of the people. You can’t teach old dog new trick and also not easy to change the old mindset even if the Singapore government is more opened to such issues. Our job was just to study hard in order for us to get a good job to survive. This was not my cup of tea I took the other path my teacher had shared with us and that is the spiritual path to excel and to reach for the STAR not for myself but for greater humanity.

IF YOU ASK ME TO CHOOSE $100M OR A HOMELAND FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, WITHOUT HESITATION I WILL CHOOSE A HOMELAND FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. LIFE IS SO STRANGE WITHOUT KNOWING IT SUBCONSCIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT MY DREAM IS ALL ABOUT. From primary school I met this Jewish teacher. Secondary school my teacher talked to us about the Palestinian plight and how sad that the world did not cared for them because MONEY at play. At the age of 17years old I met Arab Singaporeans who got relatives in Yemen and they just love Singapore and hope the Israelis and Palestinians can live together like how we Singaporeans were living. At the age of 18 years old I became an Air hostess for Sabena a Belgium airline and we were based in Belgium and our second home is Iran and UAE. At the age of 23years old I married a Lebanese who religion is Maronite Christian and we live in Abu Dhabi. So you see I am always talking with the Palestinians and at times when we talked about the conflicts they were very high in anger but most of the time in tears like CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA the song. So like that they cried and I cried too. And I have been crying till now and still crying in my heart when I go to sleep! So how can I be free myself? SO KEEP MASS EMAILING like crazy loi.

We human got plan but God got a higher or greater plan for all of us who believes in him.

My teacher said that the spiritual path is more powerful then studying in the university because the spiritual path is life university. She said in the spiritual path NO MONEY and MONEY WILL APPEAR(I will share more with you once I close this deal who my Jew client.)

I can write a book just revealing how powerful this path had enabled me to excel even I do not have a paper qualification and until now I cannot even speak good English (I speak singlish or broken English)but when inspiration come the DIVINE takes over this was what my daughter friend Dorothy said and she was the one who help me post the petition. I am coming 57years old on 20 Jan 2012 and I am not good at anything except dreaming. I remembered vividly in the classroom my teacher often shouted at me,”Sun Wah stop dreaming!”

DO YOU THINK THIS DREAM OF MINE OF A HOMELAND FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE IS JUST A DREAM?

This was sent to me by my daughter Greta Georges on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:24 PM when I wanted to wear a placard to Call for Support for a Palestinian State,

THANKS MOTHER!!

So sweet of you guys to think for me about my iphone. And yes Gabriel is right about the ipad.. I might want an upgrade on my com instead.. this we can do later.

Anyways, so you want to go down and put a placard. I have attached Gabriel in this because you have taught us of the value of a family discussion and I am sure that covers all issues that affect our lives. Let’s have an open communication.

Okie.

1) pro – you have spoken your piece and do what you want to do.

2) con – You might be spotted by clients and FUTURE clients and that might ruin your housing career. As it is , it is on the slow recovery after silence from a year. Please think carefully about how the press and media will make a mockery of this. As strength in numbers is key nobody will take you seriously if this is something that is done to vent something,

In short, please go work out go to gym and get a six pack or do something else that is not counterproductive to all that you have built. People want to hear someone who is rational and not someone who hangs something on their neck, PEOPLE walk away from stuff like that because it is cringe worthy and an act that satisfies just itself.

Remember even someone as note worthy of the late JBJ was disgraced for his similar antics in Centerpoint.
Go put your effort into writing a book about your life if you really want to be heard.

Although I support you my Mother, I am not supporting the idea of you walking about and making a mockery of yourself. However, if you choose to do so, nothing can stop you. I urge you to think clearly with your head and made a sound decision to do something that will reap rewards in the long term and not some self satisfying short term gain.

I love you very much and hope that you can seek recovery in places in your life where you felt you were injustice treated instead of attaching it to a wider battle fought elsewhere.

Fight the battle inside and the problems will be solved and will work itself out in its natural order. The universe does not need your poking in places.

I know you have been passionate about this, but I challenge you to battle the demons within, rather than some outward enemy.

Loving Your Daughter.
Greta

P:S I am fighting my demons with a lot of exercise and getting clarity and setting personal goals and crossing the hurdles. It is not bitching how bad the world is and bitching how bad it is will not change it. Changing your life for the better is the best way to live and IMPACT the people around you first, your family, then friends. Life is as good as you let it be and I have never felt more healthy and empowered. My hope is that you will find that too. It is a slow lesson for me but I take it one stride, step, pedal and stroke at a time on my bike, in the pool and on the pavement.

beenthere2460  11/06/2011 10:02 AM Report

Yes, I did. Happy to have done it. Forwarded your petition to Facebook by the way.

Sorry for repeating the same comment four times. My Internet signal is rather erratic and couldn’t tell if the comment had posted.

ChongSunWah  11/07/2011 01:48 AM Report

On behalf of the Palestinian people I thank you very much for your support. I pray that fear will not take over the consciousness and allow their heart to manifest and mind to have clarity to give them the courage to support the petition.

You said, “I still enjoy music by Gershwin, a Woody Allen film, a Chagall painting. They are all Jewish and they are all great. But why can’t they prove their greatness when dealing with the ones suffering from inequality and injustice at their own hands?

DUE TO FEAR FROM THE OLDER GENERATIONS (THE HOLOCAUST) THEY HAD IMPOSED CONSTANT FEAR ON THE NEXT GENERATIONS, THUS HAD MADE THE JEWISH PEOPLE PARANOIA! IF THEY CANNOT BREAK THIS CIRCLE OF FEAR THERE IS NO END TO THE SAGA!

How can they be great when they are not proud to be known as Jews. In short they are not proud of their heritage if they are why are they so afraid of others knowing that they are Jewish. Let me share with you this article by Jonathan Eyal on today Straits Times it said, “Outrage over app on Jews in France”

LONDON: Should a mobile phone application which allows users to discover whether celebrities are Jewish or not be considered just harmless fun or incitement to racial hatred? That is the question now faced by French court in a case which pits modern technology against ancient prejudice.

The dispute began in August when Apple, the US computer company, started selling a new app on its online store. Written in French, Jewish Or Not Jewish allows iPhone users to taping celebrities’ names to determine if they are of Jewish descent. At 79 euro cents(S$1.40), it became an instant hit.

The app’s designer Johann Levy is of dual British-French nationality and is Jewish himself. He denies any sinister motive. “For me, there is nothing pejorative about saying that someone is Jewish or not. On the contrary, it’s about being proud.”

Still, a public outcry followed. The Confederation of French Jews claimed that the app created a “method of differentiating and stigmatizing people, similar to that frequently used by radical right-wing elements against Jews”.

Again in today Straits Times by Agence France-Presse, Reuters it said,”Attack on Iran is more likely says Israel president”

President Shimon Peres is calling for the world to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Very simple if President Shimon Peres wanted the world to support their cause, FIRST LISTEN TO THE CALL OF THE WORLD AND GIVE THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE THEIR HOMELAND THAT WAS AGREED IN 1993 AT OSLO SIGNED BY YITSHAK RABIN!

Dear President Shimon Peres, may I take this opportunity to invite you to sign the petition at,
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html#sign

I have sent this message to your foundation and many Jewish org that are pro Palestinians but till now no response from all. Only one had signed in Roni Hammermann.

Once Israeli government musters the courage to make this bold step I am confident Iran will not built nuclear weapons. The way the Palestinian people had been treated all these 63years is so inhuman had in fact push or compel Iran to acquire nuclear weapons to protect themselves because what make you think there will not be another crazy “Hitler” at the Israel front especially when Israel got nuclear weapons. Just look at the soviet Jew LIEBERMAN and my hair stand!

The Israeli government is killing the Palestinian people in GAZA without a BLINK! Instead they BELIEVE IT IS THEIR GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO SLAUGHTER ALL THE PALESTINIANS FROM GAZA BECAUSE THEIR LEADER FROM HAMAS IS ASSOCIATED WITH IRAN!

ISRAEL WANTS TO PREEMPT SO DOES IRAN! AND MANY MORE COUNTRIES WILL FOLLOW THIS PREEMPT EXAMPLE OF AMERICA BOMBING IRAQ WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF UNITED NATION. WE ARE REALLY LIVING IN A VERY DANGEROUS PERIOD IN HISTORY. JUST IMAGINE PAKISTAN PREEMPT AND BOMB INDIA AND DON’T FORGET NORTH KOREA. IF THE WORLD DON’T HELP THEM OUT THEY MIGHT JUST BOMB WHOEVER BECAUSE THEY GOT NOTHING TO LOSE THEY DON’T HAVE FOOD TO EAT THEY ARE GOING TO DIE SO WHY NOT DIE WITH STYLE OR HONOR….

I remembered vividly what my mother said in the 70’s when she could not take the unfairness act of the America government protecting and supporting Israel all the times and ignored the Palestinians plight she shouted out loud to the American government, “Don’t you think you are strong and mighty, when you push these people to the edge and they got nothing left not even their dignity they will destroy the world because why should they let you enjoy the world while they are suffering from generations to generations.”

WHEN SEPT 11 HAPPENED MY MOTHER WORDS CAME ALIVE IN FROM OF MY EYES. THE TERRORISTS JUST USE PENKNIVES AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR WORLD!

My mother said the rich have to help the poor, the clever must help the stupid, the strong must help the weak then we will have a beautiful world. My teacher said we have to CARE for the world not just for ourselves. But she said living in a Capitalist world this was very hard to do because Capitalist value is to take and as much as they can sometimes with moral because the bottomlines is the called. For this reason in Wall Street they are not willing to pay a little bit more taxes to save America, how outrageous! Is this patriotism?

On the other hand if you live in the spiritual world your value is to give and care for all because we are all children of God. Moreover the knowledge in our head is a gift from God to humanity and not to keep or make money but to improve society. But in a Capitalist world ideas and knowledge are to make MONEY and MORE MONEY for you only!

CAPITALISM IS ABOUT ME SPIRITUAL IS ABOUT YOU ALL.

Look at what happened to the DC schools because the teachers DON’T CARE. When Michelle Rhee came and made those changes thing improve because SHE CARES. Once you care you see the difference in this world. My teacher said no need to save the world because we are ordinary people, if great politicians cannot make the world right for humanity who are we to make the world right for all. But one thing she said that we can do was to make the world a better place by not LITTERING. She said just imagine the billions of citizens in the world do not litter then we will have more money to do many useful and meaningful things for the people. She said this was not hard to do we just got to cultivate good habits and this must start young and most importantly the parents must set good example. So now in Education we must teach the children to care because we only have one world for all.

blue70531  11/20/2011 10:49 AM Report

Killing Jews is an ancient Palestinian sport. In 1948, a law was made requiring a license (very few, if any, have been issued). If a Palestinian state is created, Jew Killing will be an Olympic sport.

You want a state? Stop killing Jews.

ChongSunWah  11/21/2011 08:58 AM Report

NO ONE SHOULD DIE FOR PEACE!

Sadat dead because of the peace agreement.

Rabin dead because of the peace agreement.

Now do we want President Obama or Prime Minister Netanyahu to die for peace? Definitely not so I, Chong Sun Wah calls on the citizens of the world to hear me out.

Dear Citizens of the World,

My teacher said that the politicians should be doing God’s job which means building a better world. But they often fail humanity, like what has happened in the conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians. She wanted us to develop our social consciousness and not allow Capitalism to rob us of our moral values and our very souls. When we only care about money and power, our sense of right and wrong becomes blurred. She said that when we have acquired a higher level of consciousness, it is as if God is within us, and we will recognize when something is not right and know how to make it right.

In short, she wanted us to be the conscience and eyes of the politicians, who are often blinded by greed and power, which often leads to false pride and arrogance. LOOK AT WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN GAZA, ONE ISRAELI SOLIDER WAS CAPTURED AND 1800 PALESTINIANS GOT TO DIE! THIS IS INSANE, OUTRAGEOUS AND INHUMAN! When they do something wrong, we the citizens of the world must Stand Up and Speak Up without fear or reservations.

Israel Prime Minister Netanyahu has no intention to give the Palestinian people a homeland, can the citizens of the world STOP his plan? http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/27/netanyahu-diplomacy-france-spain/
This petition is not “pro Palestinians”; it is “pro Humanity”. WHEN THE OCCUPATION STOPS, THE TERROR WILL STOP TOO.

TO BUILD A BETTER WORLD EVERYONE MUST CARE.

I hope to get your support for this Petition for a Palestinian State.
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/call-for-support-for-a-palestinian-state.html#sign

The success of the “Arab Spring” tells us that a “Global Spring” is possible to achieve, too. And it can begin with nothing more than a click of your mouse supporting our petition. The Palestinian people need our support, now more than ever, for a “World Spring” to finally achieve a homeland for their people.
On behalf of the Palestinian people, I thank you all very much for your support. Please spread the word.
Love, light, peace, harmony and unity,

Sunflower Chong
Founder of www.worldharmonyday.com

blue70531 either you join ME or you join THEM?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/5-videos-from-the-pro-palestinian-rally-for-un-statehood-in-nyc/

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Watcher1952
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 10:56am

What a crock of crap…..NESSUNO99…you are not very well informed but you are opinionated. Keep your opinions to yourself or become more informed….Dweebs like you are many of the problems we here in America have……

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Nessuno99
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 10:35am

Everyone already knows that Israel is a Nazi state; that disposes of Arabs like the US uses Kleenex;that the US in married to Israel- at a minimum cost of 4 billion a year the US pays Israel; and that Israel,for the most part, holds monumental control over all US policies everywhere,especially in Washington DC and all the US financial markets all over the world.That the US is currently fighting and loosing five full scale wars in the Mid East to defend Israel,while literally destroying the US economy.We all know the US is obviously the cowardly lap dog of Israel-what we don’t,and never will know, is WHY.

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SilentReader
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 11:08am

I’m very encouraged to see the counter-protests to Palestinian Terrorist statehood.
The so-called “Palestinians” have never wanted Statehood. What they want is to eradicate Israel off the face of the earth. That’s why the “Palestinians” were created by Arafat. To be a thorn in Israel’s side, and to continue their Jihad against the Jewish people and the West. The Muslim Brotherhood gave birth to the Hamas terrorist arm to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and now they have the Gaza strip to launch their terrorist attacks on Israel to wear them down.

If the corrupt U.N. declares a Palestinian State it will be declaring a Palestinian Terrorist State.

Lloyd Drako
joesample
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 11:11am

Palestine is pure evil.

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Lloyd Drako
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 11:53am

Israel would not exist without the UN. Its main claim to international legitimacy is the UN Partition Resolution of Nov. 29, 1947.

don young
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 11:15am

The UN has never done anything for israel so why would you think they would now I would bet if you check you would find out most of the members of the UN are muslim.

Jaycen
palerider54
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 11:16am

We should all meet at the White House, grid lock the city, and not leave until the worst threat to freedom the world has ever know is impeached and thrown out of this country for the traitor to the Jews and Christians world wide that Obama is.

God will not allow Israel to be destroyed, but if the stinking animals known as palestinians, arabs and or simply muslims, attack her one more time, we should make Obama and the rest of Americas enemies pay the price.

Jaycen
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 5:20pm

So….this is less about a “Palestinian State” and more about the destruction of Israel, right?

I mean, if it was “pro-Palestine”, wouldn’t they be shouting, “What do we want? Statehood! When do we want it? Now!”

Or perhaps, “Independant Palestine!”

Right?

Seems to me “Israel is a terrorist state!” has absolutely nothing to do with creating a Palestinian state, unless they intend to create it where Israel used to be.

finalfantasytown  12/19/2011 10:24 AM Report

family, I love this world. We are in the great era of reunited.

finalfantasytown  12/21/2011 07:40 AM Report

Really thanks for the bible idea. How can I give the reward? I hate Qin Dynasty.

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